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American Militia Members. Where the hell are you? THIS is what you exist for and you are doing NOTHING!

Edit: I've only heard "defense against tyranny" as justification for these militias by these militia

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Waiting for their orders to start killing brown folks.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Successful Leftist organizers like the Black Panther Party are stamped out by the State, leaving only far-right millitias in any real number.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm convinced that this is it. There's a dual track effort to defang leftists through first heavily propagandizing the success of "pure" non-violent movements by removing them from their context, then by aggressively stamping out the groups that move past that. The first part is why you see so many people saying "well, why don't we just march again and wave more signs?" The state has done a very, very, very good job of convincing people that peaceful assembly without the threat of unpeaceful assembly behind it means a goddamn thing.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

Spot-on! Just look at the historical revisionism surrounding the roles of Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, the US mythologizes the Civil Rights Movement and erases the more millitant actions that forced their hand. See the shunning of Nelson Mandela for appreciating the aid Fidel Castro and Cuba at large had sent, followed by the revision of Mandela himself in popular western view. It's through these distortions and bluntings of real, working class victories fought and paid in blood in ways that prevent the modern working class from following in their predecessor's footprints.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 103 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They're all white supremacists, man. This isn't a tyranny to them, it's exactly what they want, they want anyone who isn't white 'self deporting' in the face of cruel mistreatment, and the military and the rest of the government is deleting any mention of any historical person that isn't a white cis het male. They have never been happier.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This exactly.

They don't see imposing a state of fundamentalist Christian supremacy as tyranny, because their ideology is one of Christian Nationalism (which in the US is inherently white nationalism).

They see the erosion of their relevance as the tyranny they're supposed to stand up to despite it mostly being driven by cultural changes instead of government mandates. This means that the militias are meant to commit violence against civilians; they know the cops will side with them in a scrum. They're more afraid of a lesbian with blue hair than a rogue sherrif depriving them of rights.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The vast, vast majority of armed militias that are allowed to operate in the U.S. are far-right white supremacists. Mysteriously, they are allowed to operate without any issues, but any leftist militias that start to accumulate guns get a visit from the FBI or the ATF.

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There was supposed to be a well regulated militia.

The militia we have are gravy seals and Y’all Qaeda who want to dismantle regulation and rights.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 44 points 4 days ago (5 children)

it's not government tyranny unless a democrat is president. duh,

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[–] trace@lemmy.ml 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

While it is true that the majority of what people conceive of as American "militias" are reactionary, leftist community defense groups do exist. They have no where near the organizing capacity to march on DC but they can be seen protecting their local communities often under the umbrella label Antifa. Given the material conditions of the US, most of the focus is on providing marginalized groups with the skills and resources to protect themselves.

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[–] MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 38 points 4 days ago

Enforcing government tyranny.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 days ago

Nothing got gun control passed faster than the Black Panthers buying guns.

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago

94% of Militia members in the US are foaming at the mouth reactionaries if not open fascists, with many being active or former law enforcement or related to military or intelligence.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (11 children)

If you expect your enemies to die fighting for your beliefs while you sip a latte and post memes then you're unfathomably fucking stupid. Right wingers care about stopping communism. Guess whose job it is to stop fascism?

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[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

Most of the "militias" support this tyranny. They're celebrating

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Majority of militia folks are fascists

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[–] dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, if you look back to the framing of the constitution, the idea was that a bunch of citizen militias would be kept such that if the country needed defense, they would be able to respond. This was because the new United States lacked (and politically opposed) standing armies like the one which they just fought off the continent.

Since then, the United States acquired an Army, Navy, and Air Force alongside numerous National Guard units. The theoretical need for citizen militias vanished.

The real answer to your question is that we really don’t have citizens participating in β€œwell-regulated militias.” Not from the constitutional context, anyway.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

if you count urban terrorism, we have Atleast three groups. All of them communist or communist in name.

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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

β€œNot all tyranny is bad”

-maga dumbshits

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