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I daily an Apple Watch but have been increasingly interested in getting a nice dress watch.

My dream watch is the Rolex Datejust with the jubilee bracelet and fluted bezel, but I don’t have 12-14k to cough up for one.

Looking at some of the other brands, even a few grand on a luxury watch is a bit much for me for anything similar (Tudor, seiko, omega etc. I never knew those brands were in the thousands).

I found this Tissot and I think it’s gorgeous, but I don’t know too much about the brand. This watch is the Tissot Gentleman Powermatic 80 Silicium Automatic, which runs $825. The Quartz model is half the price, $425, so I’m curious what the major difference is to demand double for the automatic.

Thank you!

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[–] MortalPhantom@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Watch enthusiast generally like mechanical movements, and they are regarded as more "luxury" than quartz watches, wether that is true or not is a different thing. But they are definitely more..."renonwed".

That's why the automatic costs more.

[–] MelkorTheDarkLord18@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s on Amazon for like $550

[–] Jaded_Individual_276@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Would never buy a watch on Amazon. If it’s a dupe and you find out when it’s too late you’re SOL.

[–] justanavguser@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It's a good brand.

[–] SpenceAlmighty@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have this watch, it looks great in person, excellent finishing and punches well above its weight class - could have easily been released under a higher swatch group brand name.

[–] stealthtowealth@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I have it too and it's lovely

[–] naripan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yes. Tissot is a popular entry level mechanical watch brand. It's swiss made with swiss in-house (group) movement. It's a solid choice for daily driver.

If you are not familiar with the brand, you may take a look at the PRX, it's one of their current bestselling, so there should be one or two people wearing it somewhere :)

[–] violet_sakura@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

tissot is good value, its basically swiss seiko. the auto version has a very good movement, its an upgraded powermatic 80.811 with silicon hair spring and no plastic escapement. i think you should be able to find it for <$700 though

[–] Bulky_Alternative_69@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, I think you can find them on line for about $550. They are a great entry level watch. Probably the cheapest watch you can get with an anti magnetic silicon hairspring, like Omega and Rolex use.

[–] VerySlowQuicksand@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Echoing the other comments: great watch and great brand. I got this watch too as my first step into watch collecting. Very versatile but leans a little dressy; looks great on a black leather band too.

If you’re considering the quartz model because of price, check out the powermatic model on Jomashop or Chrono24 instead. Steep discount and reliable dealers.

[–] taizzle71@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Absolutely. Great brand with history, looks, finish, and the movement to back it up. The gentleman is a good choice, and I like it more than the prx. Do yourself a favor and pick up the automatic with the powermatic 80 movement. You will not regret it. One thing though, don't pay full retail for these. It can be had for around $550 or $500 used.

[–] Helenius@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only downside is that when you send your watch in to get serviced, you are likely to just get a new movement than get the one you have serviced. They have cheap'ish movements.

At least that's the word on the street.

[–] Free-Shopping2448@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

What's the downside to getting a new movement?

[–] joppedc@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The gentleman (Powermatic) was my first "decent" watch, and i love it! It was supposed to be my fancy watch, but it quickly turned into my daily

[–] 2_Spo0ky@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Honestly, I think this Gentleman is the perfect starting point. Solid movement and good finishing for a good price point. My first mechanical watch is a Tissot LeLocle.

I'd actually prefer the Gentleman over the PRX, as it's design is timeless and it's much more versatile.

[–] ala90x@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Very good watches for the price, from a huge watch conglomerate called Swatchgroup.

Not many things can match their value because of the huge group behind, and the sheer volumes they output. Also whenever there's issue with the watch, the warranty process is solid and available pretty much worldwide. Unlike from many smaller or more original brands.

Current generations of Powermatic movements especially with antimagnetic hairsprings are very good and effortless too, almost always giving chronometer specs accurarcy, with long 80 hour power reserve.

You might not win any originality or impression awards using a Tissot, as some might think they lack some "soul". But it's a good watch. Tells that you're a sensible no-nonsense guy or gal, shows that you respect tradition and quality, but without overspending too much.

[–] tim2oo6@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Tissot, especially the Gentleman, brings a lot of features of the higher end brands like a high quality automatic movement, great dial, sapphire crystal, very good build quality.

The Gentleman was my first (and is still my only) watch and I wear it everyday. I still cannot convince myself (and my wife) to spend 10x the amount on a Omega or Grand Seiko I desire, when I should rather be saving on a house/ new car/ stuff for my kid or spend time on holidays.

[–] Tae-gun@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

To answer your subject question, yes.

As for the quartz v. automatic/mechanical question, part of that has to do with the differences in ease of manufacture between quartz movements and mechanicals. Mechanicals have more parts and are generally more expensive/complex to produce and thus demand higher prices.

[–] sadbot0001@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

For below $1000, I'd prefer going pre-owned. Many entry luxury collections can be found below 1k. I found the entry level tissot felt cheap. Instead of tissot gentlemen, I'd prefer hamilton jazzmaster.

[–] dassketch@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I wear this exact watch daily. For me, if I'm going through the expense of a nice watch, I want mechanical. For mere time keeping, any cheap electronics will do the job. This is one of those items where it's definitely for me to enjoy. As opposed to showing off. No one will really notice the watch except another watch enthusiast, much less the fact that it's mechanical.

[–] Classic-Wear-4107@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Lovely watch

[–] Fugglesmcgee@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Agree, the Gentleman is good watch from a good brand. I think Teddy (I can't spell his last name) did a video on just this watch a few days ago.

I think it's nicer than the PRX. For the Rolex anyways, you can't just go to a store and buy one...gotta go on a waitlist. The Tissot though, just walk in and buy!

If you are okay to not have the AD experience (not sure how it is at Tissot), you can buy the same watch at like Jomashop, or chrono24 for half the price.

[–] Cojaro@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I love mine. Got it on sale for around $675 two and a half years ago. It loses around a minute every couple of months, so it's been rock solid as far as accuracy goes.

[–] blacksunshineaz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Tissot makes good watches and I own four of them. I do like the Gentleman but I won’t be buying one as it’s too similar to the T-Tempo COSC that I already own which is a more expensive model. It’s the only automatic of the four and I recently had it serviced and went through the AD. It has a different movement than the Gentleman, but I do own a Mido with the same Powermatic 80 movement and have owned it for almost two years now. I think the Gentleman is a great choice, regardless of either you go with quartz or the automatic movement. If you are concerned it may be too big for your wrist you should find a retailer where you can try it on first.

[–] jameslieu@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The Gentleman was my first watch, it's great. It's versatile and looks great on lots of different straps.

To answer your question, the automatic movement demands a higher price point because it's essentially a different product. You're paying for something that keeps time (although not 100% accurate) without the use of a battery - the sophistication, complexity and ingenuity of the clockwork are what people are really paying for, like a piece of art, which is also why a exhibition caseback is what some people want in their watches.

Automatic movements can last generations (if properly cared for and serviced), whereas (the idea of) quartz is that it's eventually disposable, but that could be 20+ years down the line anyway.

Quartz is fine in my opinion, is more accurate and you only need to set it once. So if you don't particularly care about horology and just want something that looks good on your wrist, go with quartz.