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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago

Even as an American, right now I wouldn’t trust the US for shit.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 hours ago

Never should have, this is the country famous for sawdust bread

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago

I absolutely do not need a professor to answer this question. Also what the actual fuck kind of response is "we should be skeptical". Is this the headline for an article in "'Duh' weekly" or something? Well, No shit Dr. Empiricism; of course we should. Boycott that shit into oblivion.

[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Easy test. Review a trainload of produce and find it to be unfit for consumption. Sell it to the US. If it's rejected you know there is still a system in place. If it's accepted you know to stop all imports.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago

as someone who has worked in multiple food manufacturing and preparation facilities in the US:

NO AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TRUSTED IT BEFORE

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

They did before?!

[–] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 21 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck no - we literally can't trust the US for anything right now.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

Yeah food is something I never trusted the Americans with. As for privacy and stuff from tech, it was a "the devil I know," situation.

[–] bowreality@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago

And food safety was questionable before. We stopped buying cantalopes and onions from the US years ago. I rather do without than get ecoli or listeria.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

Why should one trust the US with food safety from the start? Have you ever noticed how much artificial gunk they have on the ingredient lists that are illegal in half of the world, sometimes even in China, of all places?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Unless you're getting it from California specifically (which has its own food safety shit that is almost as good as much of the EU), I wouldn't trust our federal food safety, either. And I say this as an American.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 48 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Do you disagree with the articles points? Is there any misleading or false information in the article? Do you have an alternative source reporting on this that is acceptable to you for consumption?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

i think it’s useful to point out regardless so people can form their own opinions with as much information as possible about potential ulterior motives

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

It isn't ever useful to attack the mouthpiece instead of the point.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 22 minutes ago

it is useful to know that there might be reasons besides the point that they’re making though… you can make all completely correct arguments and still be wrong in a wider context

why are they making the point? why do they care? what outcome are they trying to achieve? perhaps incentives are aligned, but perhaps not

spin exists, truth can still be misleading

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Actually in this specific scenario, when we are trying to encourage and grow the buy Canadian movement, and move away from reliance on American, it makes sense.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

If the information is sound it doesn't matter who is saying it. Hard stop, no arguments.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago) (1 children)

If the information is sound it doesn’t matter who is saying it

Who is saying the information isn't sound?

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

The Ottawa Citizen is American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.

Do you disagree with the articles points? Is there any misleading or false information in the article?

I hear you. Attack the points, not the person. In general, agreed.

Do you have an alternative source reporting on this that is acceptable to you for consumption?

Not on this particular topic, but I also haven’t looked. See American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.

Who is saying the information isn’t sound?

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 minutes ago
  1. They're American owned and infiltrating Canadian culture and politics, that still doesn't mean the information isn't sound.
  2. I agreed with attacking the points, not the person. I never even reference the article in this sentence.
  3. Sources acceptable for my consumption, again doesn't mean I am insinuating that American owned media doesn't provide sound information.

So, who is saying the information isn't sound?

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

Do you disagree with the articles points? Is there any misleading or false information in the article?

I hear you. Attack the points, not the person. In general, agreed.

Do you have an alternative source reporting on this that is acceptable to you for consumption?

Not on this particular topic, but I also haven't looked. See American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.

[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Trump and Musk are intentionally dismantling safeguards from within and also trying to sell their chlorinated chicken to the UK so yeah probably not.

also what AlolanVulpix' saying +1.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago

also what AlolanVulpix’ saying +1.

Woot, woot!

[–] asg101@lemmy.ca 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No one should trust the USA for ANYTHING at this point.

[–] Dearche@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

Well, except maybe chaos and malice.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 36 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Well no, you can't trust the US for food safety. I live here and am starting to doubt it myself.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean could you ever? I have a canadien friend who sometimes travels the us and we always joke about the differences between his canadian, my european and then the american food. The weirdest thing was when he bought spinach and send me a picture and said: doesn't that look awefully green to you? And it was almost plastic looking. He said he had some green shits the next day. Also americans are the inverntors of fucking people over with food declarations. We once talked about how much i liked cap'n crunch as a child and that it doesn't exist here for like 20 years. Suddenly i got a package with two packs of cap'n crunch in the mail. It wasn't the ones that we had, it was very berry and something else. The postage alone was i think 50 dollars, and i felt horrible because that shit was inedible. I'm not even jokeing, it was one of the grossest things i ever ate, it tasted at the same time like cardboard and diabetes.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's candy. People eat fucking candy for breakfast. It's disgusting.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 2 hours ago

But it's not even good candy. How do you fuck up sugary cereals. I never threw away cereals.

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Places that are not the usa have known this for decades. Ever wonder why nobody outside the usa buys your milk ? The meat is, uh, something. The list goes on.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I spent 20 years living outside the US. The ignorance, even the "good" people, about the rest of the world has been painful to me for most of my adult life. It's been really weird hearing all this rah-rah USA! USA! shit every time I moved back and just experiencing a place getting shittier every time. I've had way too many fellow Americans ask, "If it's so bad here, where else in the world is as good?" That type of ignorance. Most of us can't even imagine the idea of there being better countries. Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 5 points 9 hours ago

I was once in the middle of nowhere in Switzerland. Like some of the most idyllic and remote places in the country. i went to a gas station with a little shop. Even the gas station shop was 70% goods from around the place. There was only me and a big camper. There was an older guy in there, the camper guy. He looked at me and said: hah, fuck the yankees. I was like: excuse me? He pointed at my hat, and i said i don't care about baseball, or football(?) it's a fashion accessory. He kept on ranbling about the last season. Then he was asking the cashier for random things like coca cola and slim jims or whatever. The older cashier was just shrugging at him, because all she spoke was dialect. I told him that they don't have anything like that here, and people, especially older people don't speak english here. He was very angry and stomped out like a little child. I met some very nice (almost too nice) americans, but that's what people think when they think about your average murican.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 9 points 16 hours ago

Exactly this. US citizens can't trust them.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

Wasn't there an old documentary about this called the Corporation about Fox News burying the story about US milk and Canada being concerned about the cover up?

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 6 points 15 hours ago

The answer is no, and has been no for a while.

[–] rob200@lemmy.ca -2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

General health advice.

Stick with as close to organic foods as possible. I know it may not be easy to go 100% organic for certain types of foods, due to the current day market. Which is why I suggested to stay as close as possible.

If you can, go for as close to 100% organic with the following.

a. fruits b. leafy greens/veggies c. organic fish over chicken such as Salmon d. seeds and nuts. Such as Almonds, cashews,

If you're going to mix your drinks try to do so organically, such as by the slice of lemon on a cup. Tea is generally safe, especially green tea and black tea, which are known to be pretty healthy.

If you eat snacks or candies, you can do so, but check ingrediants that are put into your treats. Make sure there isn't anything that raises a red flag, then check online to see if it doesn't reach a red flag with anyone online. If it comes down to it, talk with a nutrition expert if the internet doesn't seem to answer any question you may have.

edit: what's wrong with this comment. i'm not saying to buy into any u.s foods, just generally, how to know if a food might be healthy. Regarding food safety.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

USDA organic is gonna be something you can get approval for if you buy enough Trump coins. Not gonna be able to trust shit pretty soon.

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 8 points 14 hours ago

I always eat organic. I don't digest rocks, plastics or metals very well.

[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago

I didn't downvote but I imagine it's due to your comment being somewhat irrelevant to the post and overall discussion.

Your comment isn't bad, it just might be too loosely tied to the post.