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Even if they did, won't they get a lot of false positives because of a large amount of it being sprayed hemp buds that are legal as hemp? Also, I know a lot of dispensaries get their stock like vape pens and such delivered this way already. How does that all work?

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[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For USPS they have a list of verified hemp vendors, they tried a couple years ago to open packages suspected of marijuana without a warrant. The outcome was it doesn't matter if they suspect it, you still have to get a warrant. So now if a vendor is a certified hemp vendor they can't touch it. Now UPS and FedEx are private companies so they can do pretty much whatever they want, that's why almost all hemp shipments go through USPS. I'm paraphrasing a lot but that's the gist of it. USPS is currently and has been the largest drug dealer in the country, even with omitting hemp because with the volume they process you could never catch them all and every other drug doesn't have a pungent smell like weed.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like Mitch Hedberg used to say "I love the mail guy, he's a drug dealer and he doesn't even know it!"

[–] DoctorWhookah@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

An escalator can never break down. It can only become stairs. The sign says "Escalator temporarily stairs. Sorry for the convenience."

Also

I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too.

-Mitch Hedberg

Edit: Thanks for the corrections. This is what happens when drunk me makes comments.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] protist@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A broken elevator is also like stairs when you're on drugs

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah maaaaan it's just an extra room.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Not only is it an extra room, it's an extra bathroom if you're desperate enough.

[–] Thermal_shocked@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Escalator. An elevator becomes a room when broken.

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Here's two more, just for laughs:

I recently took up ice sculpting. Last night I made a cube. This morning I made 12, I was prolific.

Is a hippopotamus a hippopotamus; or just a really cool Opotamus?

That's a lot of drugs

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, if you're stupid enough to mail some weed or any other controlled substance via USPS Media Mail, they don't need a warrant or even Postal Inspectors to open it. As long as it is clear that the item is not media of some kind, it can be opened and documented to charge the correct postage.

Saw this before when some ding-dongs tried dumping mushroom growing kits (not exactly illegal) in the blue box at my old office. The only reason they opened them is because the fertilizer inside was causing a noticable amount of steam to come from the box (it was winter as well). All they really did was return it for proper postage because it was the wrong type.

[–] Today@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you mark your weed media mail? Mine shows up as regular first class mail. Never had an issue. It's legal in most of the US.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Save money on postage. Media Mail is cheaper than First Class/Ground Advantage or Priority Mail and still offers tracking.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can just delay your package until the warrant comes through. It doesn’t take that long.

And “we got a hit by a dog/swab” is usually accepted probable cause for opening it up

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They can also alert law enforcement in the shipper/receivers area to bust you when sending or collecting the package. I recall a few years ago someone sent a weed shipment and used the address of the mayor of some city in Maryland as the recipient and the police raided his house and shot his dogs.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

and shot his dogs.

bastards. It'd be funny otherwise.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Babe, wake up, someone found a new way to sic cops on people.

If it weren't for the dogs it would be funny.

[–] activistPnk@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Interesting lesson in this story:

Pkg with contraband was intercepted, documented, all needed warrants secured. Pkg is delivered while the house is staked out by LEOs. Sometime after delivery (a day later, iirc) they bust in, find the pkg, and arrest. The pkg was sitting just inside by the door, unopened. Defense argued “my client knows nothing about this unexpected package. Who’s to say the sender wasn’t framing the recipient?” So he obviously got vindicated.

So there’s a game of timing. Recipients need to be given the chance to open the pkg and react by calling the police. Not sure how it goes if you consume it immediately after opening and burn the box. Certainly the wrong move is to open it and let it sit around open.

/cc @snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world

[–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

🎶"Inhale - exhale - just got an ounce in the mail"🎶

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A friend of mine used to ship pounds at a time through FedEx. He would ship about 20 packages every fall, half of them made it to their destination, but he and the recipients were never contacted about it. His thinking was that if someone at FedEx noticed, they would just keep it, while someone at USPS would probably get the wheels turning for prosecution.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I work for the post in another country where its medically prescribable and we have seen an uptick in suspicious small packages that reek of weed. The boss called the cops on the first one (years ago) and the cops were more interested in how we knew what marijuana smelled like and treated us like shit for calling them. Really we just wanted guidance on where our liability was on being part of the "chain" and how seriously we should take it and they were absolute cunts.

So now in our office our unofficial policy is "You smelled pot? No you didnt. And if you did, how do you know its not being sent legally? And even if you're fucking sure its sketchy as hell, you're calling the cops and making the statements and dealing with it. You arent fucking my day up over some guy getting a quarter you fucking narc."

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

If you want legal advice call a lawyer. Cops aren’t there to help you. They barely even understand the law and their only interest is fucking with you regardless if it’s legal or not.

Cops are shit. You’re better off never interacting with them.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your mistake was thinking you could call cops for help.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Our policy and procedure manual says call the cops. I knew they werent going to care about personal use amounts. But I didnt expect borderline hostility.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

maybe things have changed but years ago it was generally understood that a little bit once would be ignored but a huge amount or too often wouldn't be ignored. best to double ziplock your ganja and stuff it into a half full shampoo bottle for travels, like an adult.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just moved from Southern NJ to Miami, Florida and I just put 3 8ths in with all my other junk and let the movers transport it for me 🤣

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Welcome to Miami. Say goodbye to all your savings!

[–] freewheel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Could be worse. They could have picked Orlando.

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

From South Jersey, so not likely. Just guessing, I don't know Jack lol.

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[–] Trimatrix@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Knowing someone working for one of the three services you named…. They don’t really care. The people at the counter can’t accuse you of anything unless you are dumb enough to say you are shipping weed. After that, I would assume shipping is laxed due to your mentioned reasons.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah I know people that have sent a lot of weed through the mail and as long as it doesn't obviously reek of weed, they really don't care.

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I recently learned that its pretty normal to order weed online to have it delivered in Canada. Lucky bastards...

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It used to be more normal before legalization, now it's mainly for people who buy in bulk. Local dispensaries are more convenient and actually pay their taxes

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The absolute best is flying with weed inside Canada. Accidentally bought too much on your trip? Not a worry

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I still hate that you can buy weed in Ontario and you can buy weed in New York, but bringing it across the border gets you arrested.

[–] Today@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's totally normal in the US. I get a monthly subscription delivered along with other occasional orders. Former president cheeto signed the 2018 farm bill essentially making it federally legal. A few states have banned it, but most places it's fine.

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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Just seal it well and they won't have a reason to inspect it in the first place.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Regardless of whether they care or not shipping something across state lines that is illegally federally would give me pause.

I do wonder about how dispensaries are stocked now that you mention it.

[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

The lady at the local dispensary said that most of the product is grown in state to ensure it’s not a felony to cross state lines with it. She did say that in the earlier days there was shady practices in driving things up from Cali but now it’s all in state.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s very closely regulated in most states and everything in a dispensary is labeled, accounted for and on camera at all times. It’s really a bit absurd.

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and on camera at all times

Reminds me of the time cops raided a pot collective, tore out what they thought were all the cameras, and proceeded to make themselves at home.

Tore out all the cameras they did not. They were caught on camera eating the pot merch, playing darts, and joking about kicking an amputee in her "nub".

Cops doing cop things...

[–] beetus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hey OP, check out this defcon talk. I think it's relevant to your question https://youtu.be/01oeaBb85Xc?si=UDuEjhJLxp6Ysjl5

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