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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] roawn@feddit.uk 6 points 53 minutes ago

I'm using this phone right now and I love it. it feels solid. Im using a degoogled ROM and it just works, there seems to be a lot of people pressing for graphene os specifically and discrediting the phone for what it is. its so easy to take apart and cheaply repair its great. it's perfect for folk who want a decent smartphone that you dont have to worry about being thrown around. sure it's not perfect but it is still a very great photo

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 52 minutes ago

Only 400€ to go until I can afford it.

[–] sonosonic@lemy.lol 10 points 1 hour ago

I've had this phone for over a year with Murena e/OS/! 90hz refresh rate is so nice

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 39 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I wish they could implement the parts of the Pixel phones that allow GrapheneOS to be used.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What parts are these? I've always wondered what this was about, why the pixel was the only phone that could support GrapheneOS

[–] MicKet@swiss.social 6 points 2 hours ago

@vga @Tangent5280

https://www.kuketz-blog.de/weshalb-grapheneos-aktuell-nur-google-pixel-geraete-unterstuetzt/

(From an Interview - The relevant parts are in English)

Security seems not easy.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

So, graphene could be put on those phones if the devs wanted to do it, but it would be less secure since the bootloader would remain unlocked.

Also, supporting a small line a phones is probably infinitely easier than a range, of devices, but it would be nice to have another option. Especially now that the Fairphone pice is reasonable.

[–] Prism@feddit.org 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The Fairphone can be locked after flashing a custom rom. /e/-OS is officially supported. You can even buy it from them with /e/ preinstalled. iode-OS also works. I don't know about Graphene OS, but tbh, I don't see the benefit of Graphene OS for the average user. /e/ has built in privacy features, is google-free and runs MicroG as alternative to Google Play Services. Most apps run fine. You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

I've been using Fairphone 5 with /e/-OS for over a year and love it.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

e-OS is said to have the worst security of pretty much all Android distributions. Dunno if this is a fact, but apparently the upgrade schedules are not great.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

/e/ has built in privacy features

/e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.

is google-free and runs MicroG

So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.

You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

You can do the same with aurora store. That's available on just about every phone.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

You can do the same with aurora store. That's available on just about every phone.

not if the app attempts to verify its license through the play store. you need microg for that, or patch it

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well even graphene os still runs a version of Android. So there is still some goggle code in that. But ripping oit google play, amd various goggle services means goggle doesn't track you with those. Yeah if you still ise gmail and log into toutube every day they will.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

there is still some goggle code in that.

But that code is open source, and it has been verified that it dosent track you.

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[–] Flukas88@feddit.it 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity... how is doing that in 2025?

[–] Srootus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Its fine, I haven't noticed any slowdown yet, the main issue right now is that there was a screen problem that caused the OLED pixels to stay on when a black screen was present. They removed the AoD while they fix it, they've fixed it a few months back, but we still don't have AoD.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 minutes ago

I haven't noticed any slowdown yet

?? Confused with Windows?

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