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Craig Mokhiber, director of human rights body, accuses the US, UK and much of Europe as ‘wholly complicit in the horrific assault’

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[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I'm so heart broken and disturbed that we are just sliding this actively under the carpet.

History is NOT going to remember our part in this kindly.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Israel is playing a really dangerous game here. Not just in terms of its barbarism towards the Palestinians but because they're risking the destabilization of the whole region.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Saudi Arabia is still talking normalization. The whole point of Iran providing the Oct 6th missles was to stop that. Looks like the region is stabilizating despite this.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The support of the US, the UK, France, Germany and some smaller European countries like Austria needs to be constantly pointed out, as does their profound, two-weights two-measures, hypocrisy when you look at their differing postures on the situation in Ukraine vs the situation in Palestine.

This would never have happenned (including Hamas' terrorist attacks) if Israel had long ago been hit with sanctions for not abiding to the UN-agreed borders and their Appartheid state, just like South-Africa was (interestingly, the UK back then also "unwaveringly" supported the Appartheid regime in SA) until they changed their ways, and even now that it has happenned, the continued "unwavering" provision of material, information and even diplomatic support to an Israel already commiting Genocide means the leaders of those nations - and by extension the nations themselves (all of which are supposedly democracies) - share the blame for this Genocide.

There are and always will be nations that fall to Fascism like Israel, and whilst fascists applying their "Strength is the only way" view of the world by acting in violent ways without any moral considerations is their choice and hence their fault, the entirety of the fault is not only theirs: those who provide cover and support the fascists are also to blame for freeing them to act as they do, and worse, those supporting the fascists in their exercise of violence are de facto accomplices in their violent deeds - they might not be the one "holding the knife" in the murder but they certainly provided it knowing what it was going to be used for.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate this.

I hate when good people step down.

They just open the door for some tool to step in and make the problem normal.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good people letting themselves be complicit in bad things, whilst they are powerless to do good, helps no one.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

He was retiring anyways, just found a good moment to retire

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

This guy gave a absolutely amazing interview today. Completely destroys israel, doesn't even go for the softy 2state.

https://youtu.be/wiGp2mvFLY0?si=WYD-YCE0R1dlhL8V

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

“The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

Are we sure he just wasn't retiring due to his age? This statement seems pretty vague.

edit: for clarity, this is sarcasm

[–] Actaeon@artemis.camp 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sound pretty clear to me. And if you include the context of each sentence, before and after, I don’t see how much clearer it could get.

He said that the UN had failed to prevent previous genocides against the Tutsis in Rwanda, Muslims in Bosnia, the Yazidi in Iraqi Kurdistan and the Rohingya in Myanmar and wrote: “High Commissioner we are failing again.

“The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

Mokhiber added: “This is text book case of genocide” and said the US, UK and much of Europe were not only “refusing to meet their treaty obligations” under the Geneva Conventions but were also arming Israel’s assault and providing political and diplomatic cover for it.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're 100% correct. I was making a joke about the people saying otherwise. I did an edit, but it wasn't fast enough to save you the time. Thank you for the correction.

[–] Actaeon@artemis.camp 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poe’s Law strikes again!

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better than Murphy's Law, because when that one strikes Matthew Mcconaughey falls out of a higher dimensional bookshelf worm hole in your ceiling. He is not fun company and keeps telling you to "just roll with it."

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Around here Murphy's Law strikes as something like "After 1/2h writting a well though insightful comment, just before the the would be commenter presses 'Reply' he up/downvotes the parent comment, thus losing the entire text of his own not yet posted comment"

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[–] flathead@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Mokhiber, who was stepping down having reached retirement age..."

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I'm so desperate for any one in power to do something, I'll take this anyway

[–] MrZee@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

While sometimes positions have a requirement to retire at a certain age and/or tenure, most don’t — I’m not sure if this particular role has such requirements. My reading of this is that while he was eligible to retire, he probably was not required to. Many people work past retirement eligibility.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Can someone help me understand how this is positive? Or is it just abjectly hopeless and bleak, and that’s the reason he did what he did?

Seems to me that leaving your role because of your opposing views allows those you disagree with to fill it themselves. Typically with someone who agrees with them.

I guess that might answers my question: he felt hopeless.

[–] a9249@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At that level "resignation" = terminated politely.

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Where's the lie though?

[–] kleenbhole@lemy.lol 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"Guy who can easily retire with a pension because he's past retirement age anyway gives middle finger to his old boss as he leaves because he's sick of things never changing"

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I don't know if you actually read his letter giving notice, but Gaza has functionally been his life's work. He's lived there for many years and fought for human rights and equality.

Whether or not he's at retirement age, this is a dark culmination to his life's work.

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[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fighting Genocide is positive even if you are old

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
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