I mean, the place is bad enough without resorting to conspiracy theories based on blurry ass photos.
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I'm prepared to be downvoted to oblivion over this but... I don't think it's a pile of dead bodies and here's a bunch of reasons why.
I feel I need a disclaimer like: I'm not an idiot, I have grave concerns for the inmates and CECOT and I'm certain that many have already perished due to violence between inmates or malnutrition or even violence from guards, however... I just don't think this is a pile of dead bodies.
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It's never aliens - Sensational blurry images are never what people think they are. You know, the face on mars, et cetera.
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There are so many more likely things - It could be a pile of chairs, or uniforms, or boxes, or a tarpaulin.
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They wouldn't make a pile of bodies for us to see - This thing is a cash cow for Bukele. They will be doing their best not to fuck it up. Any idiot would know that if you make a big pile of dead bodies oozing blood outside it will show up on some pesky satellite images.
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They wouldn't make a pile of bodies outside in the sun - A dead body is a logistically challenging thing to deal with. A pile of dead bodies even more so. Leaving them in the sun even just for several hours would make the whole thing so much worse. The decomp gasses in the digestive tract would make all the dead bodies shit themselves.
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Industrialised Killing Takes a Toll - Admittedly I don't know a lot about this but the nazis learned killing too many people in a repetitive waymakes a soldier "undisciplined" or unmanageable. I don't want to go into detail but they set up a system where the same soldier never saw the same person alive and then dead. If they were systematically killing inmates this wouldn't be the system.
I think it is a pile of dead bodies, but I'm not convinced it is a systemic mass slaughter. I think it was a cellblock riot that was put down. I watched the propaganda video where Bukele was introduced to CECOT and it had plenty of lethal weaponry on site. They spoke deliberately and clearly about how the prisoners would be treated with lethal force if necessary and I believe them. If it were a mass extermination, they would have built facilities to do that. It's well known that the Nazi deathcamps were built to psychologically insulate the guards from the terror they were inflicting - and CECOT is clearly well built based on the designs of other prisons. The designers would have definitely taken notes from the deathcamps if that were their intention.
You make a good point. I hadn't considered a riot.
We know that conditions there are terrible and that lethal force would be used with little provocation, so having a dozen or so dead in a riot is a likely eventuality.
That said, I still don't think it's a pile of dead bodies. Strong claims require strong evidence. A healthy level of skepticism requires better evidence than a pixelated brown and red smudge.
Yep, Occam's razor says that it is a pile of wood or debris and that TikTok sleuths no better than Reddit sleuths.
Occam's Razor: what's the simplest explanation for a red stain outdoors? Rust. But I hope someone makes sure it's not something worse.
If it's blood, it's red for the same reason, though
Unsure why the downvote, I think you are technically right. Oxidation makes blood and rust red.
Because blood is red regardless of oxidation.
Human blood is.
Cephalopod blood is blue from the copper-rich hemocyanin instead of hemoglobin, which helps them endure the incredible cold of the abyss.
Also, the Prasinohaema skinks of the island of New Guinea are green-blooded from the high concentrations of biliverdin, a toxic green bile pigment that outshines their hemoglobins' iron. 🤓
TIL
Sure is a lot of fucking rust then.
Or Occam's Razor: a big splotch of red outside a prison building in a prison complex that's abusing inmates and making people disappear is from the people who disappeared.
That area is also covered in red clay and dirt, the odds that its reddish earth wash is pretty high.
The only good evidence against it I think is that, according to the article, these satellite images are from March 2024. But, it makes way more sense financially for these El Salvadorian prisons to have their "showroom" of prisoners that is too many for someone from a distance to tally, and meanwhile, cull the overflow so that taking US prisoners is still profitable.
There's a reason we don't hold them ourselves: it costs money. And the only reasons El Salvador would keep them alive is because of a justice system defending their rights, or 3rd parties auditing them for humane conditions. Neither of which are in place for these prisoners afaik.
Sure, maybe these splotches are nothing, but also, I'm fully convinced all the ingredients for a holocaust are there, and if it's ever going to go that far, I'd honestly be surprised if it hasn't already.
I don't see it. Yes I am legally blind in one eye but my good eye sees pretty damn well and it just looks like a blurry mess
As of this morning google maps and google earth have blurred out the prison.
You can download all the pictures here:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/el-salvador-cecot-satellite-images
The fact that you can find the images on "Know Your Meme" says a lot about our society. Not necessarily a bad thing, but more that memes and TikTokers are doing more investigative work than the US government. But also pretty dystopian ngl.
Why would the US government investigate, if they are sending people abroad to avoid questions?
Also, how often are Google Earth satellite photos updated? Sleuthing on months old satellite images is not sleuthing.
Not blurred for me, outside the US, but the satellite images have been updated since yesterday.
When were the satellite images taken (can't see on mobile I think)?
The stain might as well be water running out from the building and that pile could be wood, because the size of the things doesn't make much sense,..
This is possible, but you need to consider the context that the place is also a prison and in a hot climate country, it could also be gas or diesel stains reinforcing the idea of burning something.
Still, the size of the objects doesn't match human size if you measure from what might be a head to the other end of the object, might be clearer by measuring next to it
3m is close to 10ft
I appreciate the banana for scale.
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I swear I thought maga were dumb enough. Some percent of liberals are also dumb AF. Please don't reproduce. Dead body pile. Let's get realistic.
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Fuck. I don't know what else it could be besides dead humans or dead animals and I haven't seen people sending animals to the camp.
I knew that this was the likely out come but I really was hoping that I was over reacting and it was "just" a lobour camp.
It almost looks like a slaughter area. But that's just a guess.
I agree after "cooling down" for a bit it seems more likely that it's for slaughtering animals.
Wow, this is escalating at such a rapid pace now. I truly fear for the world.
Still looks available:
And in the ESRI that little hut didnt exist:
Is it possible that kilmar is dead already? And that the recent act is because of that? To cause anger and confusion around the refusal to bring him home is better than people finding out he's been murdered already?
The senator that went to see him has released pics of kilmar alive a few hours ago. Still going back into the hellhole though, but it's given a lot of hope.
He's alive:
Yeah I saw this posted last night.
I was pleasantly shocked!