When LastPass got hacked I switched to bitwarden and never looked back. Simple and effective interface, works on all platforms, I love it!
this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2023
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It's awesome. After using it free for years, I recently became a paid subscriber as a show of support.
$10/yr is not a big price for what you get. I don't think I even use the extra features you get with the subscription, but supporting the maintenance and development of a product I would like to use for years to come is important.
Agreed. I like that the free version works well. The lack of pressure or nagging toward paying is what gets me to want to pay. I usually avoid subscriptions.
I usually self host but the fact that the option is there and I can use it any time in the future is the main reason i use BW and kick them a bit of money. And not bring nagged or forced to subscribe is a major factor for me as well.
10 bucks per year is a small price to pay to support good business
Honestly, I have been thinking of doing the same. I really don't require any of their premium features and am getting it to show my support.
$10/yr is dirt cheap for something so important in our online life.
I switched to bitwarden when last pass announced they were changing there free model so you can only use your passwords on browser or mobile but not both. Liked bitwarden way better and immediately did the yearly sub to support them.
Same after dashlane just announced they're limiting the number of passwords you can use on the free account, migrating was painless
Same here. Bitwarden has been good to me so far!
Their desktop app isnβt as nice as LastPass, but Iβll put up with a minor inconvenience to keep my passwords secure.
How is Bitwarden having all the actually needed things for free, still developing, be most open and community-friendly of cloud-synced managers, allow self-hosting everything for free and still cost just 10$/year for managed premium???
I bought premium just for the 2FA codes support and recently they announces btw it is free now. Like, buying premium for me now would be like donating, they give me anything I want anyway.
Their service is probably set up so the per-user overhead is low.
Think about it- what does your 'using it' actually consume? a few hundred KB of disk space and a little bandwidth?
I agree it's a great value though. Signed up a few weeks ago and haven't looked back.
I'd imagine their business and enterprise service is what currently or will pay the bills for them. Either way, I love their approach and the fact that it's open source.
I am still a little unclear on what this means. Isn't the idea of passkeys that they're stored on your PC's TPM? What does Bitwarden "supporting passkeys" mean in that case? Are they not stored on the device if you use Bitwarden?
You're thinking about "device-bound passkeys". Bitwarden and any other third-party credential manager leverages "synced passkeys" because they don't control the hardware.
Synced passkeys are actually called out in the FIDO Alliance's FAQs as preferred since they more closely align with the desired replacement of traditional passwords.
So it's just one half of a key pair stored in Bitwarden, then? And you authenticate to Bitwarden as usual?
Well, it's a full keypair being stored: Authenticators like Bitwarden need to first provide the public key to the relying party (RP) so the RP can issue the encrypted auth challenge. The challenge then is handed back to the authenticator, user verification happens, then the challenge is signed by the private key and sent back to the RP for verification to complete the auth ceremony.
They'll probably interface the key exchange from TPM, pulling and storing keys as needed from the TPM to applications you use BW with.
No, TPM isn't involved here. There's a few kinds of passkeys.
Hardware bound keys are locked up in a physical device like a TPM or a YubiKey. That physical device has its own security to unlock it- TPMs often work with fingerprints, or a YubiKey usually has a PIN (aka password).
A passkey can also be done in software, and that's what's happening here. BitWarden stores the encryption key within the BitWarden vault, so it can (eventually) be accessed by any device signed into your BitWarden account. Thus the same passkey works on your computer, laptop, phone, tablet, etc.
It's worth noting that Google and Apple both do it this way- the passkey is stored in their password manager, and you use Face ID or fingerprint ID to unlock that.
THat would make sense given that you'd want to be able to use it across other logged in devices.
Appreciate the explanation.
Most welcome :)
Have been looking forward to seeing your they implement this. Once it gels a bit I'll likely dive in.
Anyone seen any commits to suggest when it's coming to Android?
Is this βwebauthnβ that Proxmox recently added support for?
Am I missing something? Bitwarden already has support for authentication via biometrics or Windows Hello. How is this different from that?
My naive understanding would be: a passkey replaces a password for an individual login; a biometric authentication replaces a password for the vault that stores individual login passwords.
so basically: right now, I have a master password, and I can set up Bitwarden to bypass the master password with biometrics. With passkey set up, I will no longer have a master password, and biometric will be the only login method?
It is not about logging in to BitWarden via PassKey, but logging in via BitWarden to other services.
Confusing, but what it means is you not storing password in a manager, but a cryptographic private key.
How does this work when I want to log in from a device that doesn't have bitwarden, for example my android phone (for now at least) or my TV or otherwise? Can you manually type in a passkey?