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[–] ramsgrl909@lemmy.world 37 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I am excited, this is what my husband and I have been waiting for - a regular vehicle with no bells and whistles just to raise the price

[–] Lemming_Observer@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Yup! And hopefully starts a new thing that other makers get behind!

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[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 16 points 17 hours ago

Definitely interested…

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 15 points 17 hours ago

Please make a 4x4 model I will definitely buy one.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 34 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

(after federal incentives)

:|

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, an electric truck I might actually want. It's a shame it's made in America

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

My exact thought! I wish a Canadian startup did exactly that, I'd buy one immediately

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[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

I will buy this immediately if it's even close to this price point.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 101 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There’s no radio, no Bluetooth, and no speakers of any kind beyond for those required to play basic warning chimes.

Many will consider this a cost-cutting step too far, but the interior was designed for ease of upgrading, with easy mounting space for anything from a simple soundbar to a full sound system.

There’s an integrated phone mount right on the dashboard, but there’s nothing stopping you from bringing something even larger. I expect the low-cost Android tablet and 3D-printing communities to have a field day coming up with in-car media streaming solutions.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 28 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

This is 100% it.

All I want is a modular car system. Everything modular. Dashboard. Body panels. Whatever. I want 3+ cars possible on one frame, and to not need anything more than basic tools to swap parts around.

[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Gm said they'd build a sled drivetrain that they could just plop bodies on top of but that never happened sadly.

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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

framework truck😭

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[–] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

As an FYI, (In the United States) all modern cars will have to have some kind of screen (whether built in the mirror, on the dash, or as part of the gauge system) as all cars are required to have backup cameras as of 2018.

Starting in 2029 all cars will be required to have automatic braking technology as well.

We're never going to be able to purchase new cars that are completely dumbed down ever again, but with how many lives it will save I'd say it's worth it.

I'm glad that there are some companies that are willing to offer cars with the bare minimum of features at least. I personally would prefer having automatic windows over crank, but if someone wants to save money more power(har har) to them!

EDIT: weather vs whether Braking vs breaking

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 30 points 23 hours ago

Way over-thinking it.

Europe and Japan 10-15 years ago all had radios with 4x6 inch no-touch displays for pre-loaded GPS with no internet connection. They switch to backup cameras when in reverse.

America doesn't need to invent anything here, this is old technology widely used by large parts of the rest is the world.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we get another edit for braking instead of breaking, please? Surely all this fancy new-fangled tech never breaks? 😉

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 193 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"No touchscreen" is a really great selling point imo

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every smart feature a vehicle *doesn't *have is a selling point for me. I want my car to be dumb as a boot.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, the more software it has, the less I want it. And I’m saying that as a software engineer.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

After reading the article and the website, I can't find anything that explicitly says there is no network connection built into the vehicle.

The instrument panel is a screen, and will be used to display the backup camera video. There is some computer capable of handling video processing and displaying the instrument graphics - so more than just low-level electronics to handle the battery and drive control. It could have built-in GPS, it could have 5G, it could still be collecting and sharing data on driving habits &etc, it could be subsidized by that on the backend. Just because those functions aren't displayed to the end user doesn't mean they aren't in the system.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 142 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Fucking FINALLY.

I've been waiting for a small pickup like the old 90s 4-banger Toyota. And this is electric, simple for function, and actually affordable?

Capitalists must be seething. If it doesnt have leather interior, 19 speaker surround sound, and cost 80k, get it out of our country! /s

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Small gas-powered trucks are effectively illegal in the US.

It's regulation made in response to automakers calling everything a "light truck" to get around fuel economy and emissions standards in the 90s and 2000s.The straw that broke the camel's back was the PT Cruiser being classified as a truck by Chrysler.

So, starting in model year 2012, vehicle fuel economy standards started being based on vehicle footprint. The side effect was that small, powerful vehicles designed for moving cargo more efficiently or in tighter spaces than large trucks were impacted. It's why 2011 was the last year model of the old Rangers, S10s, Dakota, etc.

That's why the new Rangers are larger than the old F150s. They have to make them bigger to meet CAFE standards.

Same issue hit the small cargo vans in 2021/22. As the CAFE standards went up, it became impossible to meet fuel economy standards for the NV200, Ford Transit Connect, and Ram ProMaster City compact cargo vans, so they were all discontinued.

New York City was changing its whole Taxi fleet to NV200s due to their flexibility and accessibility options, and now can't buy new ones because a Toyota Camry has less-strict fuel economy requirements.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 41 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Don't get too excited about seething capitalists. Bezos is a major investor.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 9 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

they lost me at automatic high beams. we don't need more cars on the road with LED high beams blinding everybody within two kilometers

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Automatic means they turn on and off automatically so it actually cuts down on the problem you’re describing

[–] Lemming_Observer@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's the theory and it sounded great in the adverts. But in my experience, "automatic" means on by default and most folks don't think about them, creating the problem- we're all blind because the damn things come on too much. To work properly, they'll have to know where the city limits are, not just trigger at "x" lumens level. And while we're temporarily blinded, "Fooly Automasted Slef Driving" will probably kill us before that happens...

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I've never seen the sensors on mine miss, 2022 vehicle though. In fact my brights sometimes turn off for any red light along the road and reflective signs.

That said, the LED headlights without the brights on are bright enough and people constantly think the brights are on when they are not. I always think about the brights and am at the ready to manually disable them.

The headlights themselves are too bright, and there's no lower lumen off-white options it seems. Just full boar white. It used to be you weren't allowed to install headlights this bright, but then billionaires paid and lobbied for rules to allow a pass if the vehicles rolled off the lot with them, and 20 years later.. here we are. Not even sure the old rule still exists in any form.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I am physically unable to drive after sundown because those headlights fuck so hard with my light sensitivity. I can't see anything, it feels like someone slowly stabbing your eyes with a pencil.

Admittedly not the smartest thing to do, but I now keep a reflective umbrella in the car for when my partner is driving and one of those assholes decides to tailgate.

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Aight but does it have cruise control? If so it's still too much. But they're almost there.

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[–] SpamalaHamderson@lemm.ee 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

There is also the Telo Truck. It's advertised as being as capable as a Toyota Tacoma, but the footprint of a Mini Cooper.

It's asthetic is more akin to the small trucks in Japan, though.

Edit: it does seem like it has more tech-forward features, but it is otherwise a relatively simple truck in a very manageable size.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 day ago

Big bonus for Telo is that they support Right to Repair and are trying to use off-the-shelf parts where possible to enable end-user repairs. Oh and it isn't a unibody so, panels can be replaced if damaged.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Wait. Why the hell wouldn't you paint it? Does it at least have a clear coat?

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago

For those who don't feel like reading an article: solid plastic panels.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago (29 children)

No stereo is a bit spartan, but definitely a move in the right direction regardless. I want one.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Paywalled.

Anyone got a battery range on this vehicle?

[–] lijygred@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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