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[–] juansero29@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And just a week ago I was talking to these boomers that were explaining me how "we should all stop being so attached to climate fear" and that "everything will just sort itself out and we'll live just fine".

Yea, no shit boomer

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Boomers: "We had hot days in the 60's and 70's as well and you didn't hear us complain"

[–] Obsession@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

My parents' go-to is that everyone was freaking out about an incoming ice age in the 60s (they weren't), and thus climate experts are all completely clueless and have no clue what they're talking about.

And they wonder why I visit less than before.

[–] scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They meant that they'll live just fine. You see, they will be dead before climate change decimates our planet. 🤷‍♂️

[–] BeeOneTwoThree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

It won't decimate the planet, but it will make the planet a lot less habitable for humans.

So yes depending on where they live they will be just fine, but a lot of people will die. Because of this there will be huge migrations and struggels with having enough resources...

[–] ThoranTW@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think, as individuals; we all need to pick up our game and do our part in polluting and destroying the planet more. We can't let the corporations do all the heavy lifting after all.

Edit: I don't think I came across properly here, given the replies. This was sarcasm saying we need to fuck up the planet more to keep pace with the rate the corporations do.

[–] thisNotMyName@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Welcome to the coldest summer for the rest of your life :)

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Vermont just had flooding that was on par with Hurricane Irene.

They're calling it a 1000 year rarity. It happened 12 years ago. Only this time there was no hurricane.

There are ocean temperatures in the fucking 90s.

This hurricane season is gonna be batshit crazy, y'all.

[–] ahnesampo@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Shipping? Shipping is about 2 % of global CO~2~ emissions.

Large ships emit a lot of sulphur oxides (SO~x~). E.g. cruise ships emit more than all cars of Europe. SO~x~ is not a greenhouse gas, but it’s a nasty pollutant nonetheless.

[–] philm@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They emit a lot, but they transport ... a very lot. Trucks are higher emitters per comodity.

Still both should be powered by something else like hydrogen (more interesting for ships I guess) or batteries...

And cruise ships should be IMHO taxed so high (the tax should probably directly go to countermeasures), such that only very rich people are able to (not that I grant them the fun, but they should finance this climate disaster in every possible way...)

[–] staindundies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Based on what a reasonable carbon price should be, I don't think you would need to tax them to oblivion. They would just need to pay their fair share.

This website suggests that it is about 0.4 tonne of CO2 per passenger per day. Canada's current carbon tax is $65 per tonne. So a 7 day cruise would be $182 per passenger in carbon pricing. This is just ballpark and yes you can argue that carbon prices should be higher.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We are quickly arriving at an unpayable bill.

[–] philm@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

For whom though? I think if your product is going to be very expensive because of that you,ll try to find ways (less carbon emissive) to make it cheaper, and for others, who have low emissions already, they get an advantage. Also rich people generally emit much more carbon than poor people.

I'm a little bit tired of the argument, that everything gets expensive, like the money just goes to nirvana, it's a tax and a tax should steer industries (mostly) to do the right thing (in this case emit less CO2). The money can go directly to people e.g. in the form of a universal basic income.