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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 hours ago

It never ceases to amaze me how often I still learn about how much stuff is illegal in the US. All I ever heard growing up was how it's the freedomest country in the world and that the entire concept of its government was built on personal freedoms, and yet it doesn't even seem to be true on its own terms.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Colorado’s Division of Motor Vehicles also tried to explicitly ban them last year, though it later pulled its proposed rule. Some kei vehicle owners, however, say the state is still trying to keep them off the road by refusing to allow them into the emissions testing process.

As usual it's confusion from news when reporting on public policy. So are they proposing that there be exceptions to emissions rules for these vehicles or not? Because that will make a huge amount of difference in how much I or pretty much anyone else should support this.

[–] visikde@lemmings.world 36 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

For three years we've used this GEM[global electric motors] LSV[low speed vehicle] as our primary vehicle.
Legally I'm restricted to roads with 35mph speed limits or less, my maximum legal speed is 25mph, I never bothered to modify the top speed. I'm registered & insured in Reno. Driving the GEM is like towing a trailer, if the line of cars forms behind me, I pull over & let them pass Maybe 4 times a year someone rage passes me & generally ends up waiting next to me at the next light
With the lumber rack, beacon & safety triangle, I probably appear to be a city or university worker.

The notion that everyone must drive at or above the speed limit isn't true in my experience. Every trip does not require getting on a limited access highway & blasting along at 70 mph. The time saved is minimal, Small mistakes become serious accidents at higher speeds Every vehicle forum I've ever been on has a large contingent of Boys who want their toys to go fast.
The older model Kei mini trucks is too short & narrow to go faster than 40 mph or so safely. Making it wider reduces the ability to lane split :D

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 19 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Should've been okay from the start.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

But isn't that the story of America? Making things illegal that would prevent you from maximizing profits to the detriment of every one of your countrymen.

[–] FahrenheitGhost@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

100% agree and an awesome username.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 123 points 21 hours ago (14 children)

So many conspiracy theories in these comments about why American manufacturers don't build smaller cars.

It's very simple, American Auto Companies are loan companies, not auto manufacturers.

Why would they produce a $10k go-kart with a useable bed when they can get people to finance a $110k SUV at 18% APR?

It's not about oil, or other resources, or even labor and tooling.

It's just much more profitable to put you into debt.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

That sounds more conspiracists than “Americans like shit vehicles”

The Canyonero Simpsons episode came out in 98 to make fun of this

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 26 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I've noticed that Americans do not consider using an armed rebellion against evil corporate practices but talk about 2A rights all the time.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 23 points 18 hours ago

but talk about 2A rights all the time.

Most of the 2A talks come from people who want to start evil corporations.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No armed rebellion is complete without a technical built from a Toyota Hilux, which we sadly only get the slightly larger variant, the Tacoma.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 5 points 15 hours ago

The truth about the perfect vehicle for armed uprisings isn't that they only use Hiluxs. That's simply a myth. The truth is that no other vehicle has ever been able to complete even a single mission. You send 20 Hiluxs and 40,000 Tacomas into battle? You'll soon have 20 Hiluxs and 40,000 heaps of burning inferior pieces of junk. The Hilux has proven time and time again that it isn't just the perfect vehicle for an armed rebellion, it's the only vehicle able to survive.

And them's the facts.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I'm not really concerned about these idiots losing their guns, because they're too much of pussies to actually use them on the correct enemy. They don't know who the enemy is, let alone be able to read. They're easily indoctrinated. Not only that, their co-opted, their messages are taken away from them. I mean, they're just such a servile people. For me, I mean, if there ain't no revolution, because there ain't gonna be one inside of the Imperial core, the gun would just be used on myself to kill myself, so I just don't have a gun. I mean emotions fluctuate, you know?

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 37 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Especially because we are a captive market. Public transport is essentially non existent in most areas. You have to get a car, and you have to take a loan on it. Without a car, a lot of places won’t even hire you.

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[–] gradual@lemmings.world 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Anyone who cares about american auto manufacturing shouldn't be taken seriously.

Americans make shit cars.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

FORD

Fail On Race Day

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

It depends on your supply chain and the willingness of rich people to take the fair share that they deserve and give the workers the fair share that they deserve. But in America, it's all about the lowest common denominator. So everything is made terribly. Americans can make better cars, but we don't. Because we allow rich people to step all over us. Because we have no class solidarity or any goddamn common sense. We fail to see ourselves in the hierarchy. But at the end of the day, capitalism will destroy the planet.

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[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 23 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Considering?! Just fuckin’ do it, who does it hurt?

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago

It hurts GM and Ford. They don't want competition! And worse yet they don't even build anything to compete with kei trucks! Think of the shareholders, you monster!

[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Itll hurt the cyber cucks for sure

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think the customers of small, affordable, useful trucks are the same customers as the cybertruck owners.

[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

It takes away more of teslas marketshare. Eventually making it not economically viable to produce them.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

I have seen these on the roads out west...like in AZ...so cool

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

In many export markets kei trucks are sold with larger engines than is mandated by the keijidousha regulations of Japan, and come in left hand drive. For example here's the Suzuki Carry in one export market. These international variants might be more suitable for the US market.

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

What's the point of one of these over a small commercial van?

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] mdd@lemm.ee 9 points 12 hours ago

The trucks appeal is its utility. The bed is lower than any US truck. the sides and tail drop down for easy access. The bed is just as big as a regular truck. They often come in 4WD. The engine is tiny so they sip gasoline. Most important is they are very cheap.

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[–] seaplant@slrpnk.net 34 points 21 hours ago

This passed a couple days ago and will be signed by the Governor today! Takes effect July 2027.

[–] trslim@pawb.social 36 points 22 hours ago (12 children)

I would kill for one of these trucks, its so fucking stupid that they are banned

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 49 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

This is an echo back to the 70s, when gas prices were high and there were strict controls over Japanese economy cars. Why didn't American manufacturers make smaller cars? Well, "no one wanted them" was the line. Miraculously almost as soon as those same Japanese cars started to be allowed on our streets, suddenly Detroit figured out how to make them and dragged them kicking and screaming into the next eras.

Good companies innovate to keep their customers. Bad companies legislate to keep their customers.

Which one do you think is happening more today?

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

Detroit never made them; they bought them and rebranded them with trim packages.

Here's news: the US cannot make cars. They only know one style, and that's land yacht.

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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

Probably not on interstates. But for most roads it ought to be okay.

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