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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

Pretty sure that's illegal in most parts of Europe. Checking the article it says that the policy has only been updated in the UK and the US.

Sucks to be a country without adequate consumer protection, I guess.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago

They can "reserve the right" all they want, that's illegal where I live, and they sell their devices officially here. I'd love to see them trying to hold this stance in court - even Apple lost here over a similar issue, so go right ahead and try.

[–] midori_matcha@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I'd like to say their legalese is written in a way that covers more ground in the US, the most litigious country in the world. I would imagine if this was taken to court, their lawyers would argue that "permanently unusable in whole or in part" includes a console serial ban from NSO, or argue that it's the user's fault for bricking the console when they attempted to mod it, and Nintendo is therefore not liable or obligated to fix it.

But between the UK-ToS and US-ToS, Nintendo just straight up tells Americans that they themselves are going to break your damn console if you do a thing they don't like. That is absolutely dystopian.

[–] chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 hours ago

Fuck tinendo.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

i mean if i had a specific nintendo console for pirated games, i wouldn't connect it to the internet

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 39 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

So a few years ago I wanted to play a Japanese version of a rhythm game that isn't available to purchase in the USA and decided to try my hand at modding my switch for this one game.

After(poorly) doing it, I wasn't able to play that game AND Nintendo bricked me. All my games on my switch that I purchased were unable to download or play anymore.

So I went and set out to mod my switch correctly.

Now if I actually wanted to give Nintendo money, they won't allow me to. So my only option from then on is to pirate.

They basically turned a potentially paying customer to a non paying customer.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 50 minutes ago

Next time just use a Switch emulator. Sudachi is a good one.

You can even download Fitgirl Repacks of Switch titles that include the emulator already set up and ready to go. Literally just a one click install and you're playing.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 25 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So, this is a basic security principle. If the system of access is too "secure" or too inconvenient, people will create workarounds.

Need keys for all the doors every second of every day? You'll find duct tape on all the latches.

Password is 15 characters and changes every 60 days? You're going to find post-its under keyboards.

Spread all digital content across 8 streaming providers that cost about $180/y? Torrent time.

Nintendo wants to brick users for trying to play an out of region game they paid for? They'll never pay again and will reverse engineering your shit out of spite.

Same thing we saw with the music industry utterly failing to embrace internet distribution. Limewire and bearshare are their fucking lunch.

When will they learn to just make access easy? People, generally, would rather pay than pirate but when you start making shit difficult, nobody wants to play your games anymore and you see massive losses.

Meet your customers where they're at!

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

The most secure device ever made is a Rock.

You cannot have your bank account stolen from a Rock. People will never get your personal files or medical info from a Rock. People will never spy on you through the Rock.

But you also can’t do much with a Rock.

I disagree on the premise that a rock cannot be used for much. I mean, the available actions for a rock ARE pretty limited, but it can be used in a variety of ways!

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't Xbox let you change your console's region in the settings?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

i have an account on my ps4 (and ps5) that i log into and suddenly i'm in a different region. the ps5 says i only get so many region changes, but i can log into the accounts as many times as i want

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 15 points 6 hours ago

I'm gonna pirate some Nintendo games just out of spite, really.

[–] bread@feddit.nl 17 points 7 hours ago

I've been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I'm not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 10 points 7 hours ago

i can't wait to pirate their new switch 2 games 🥰 its gonna be awesome.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 54 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

At this point I'm surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.

[–] thessnake03@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Don't give them any ideas

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

🏴‍☠️

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 32 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn't seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

i kind of want the steam deck to eat the switch and i really don't have a dog in the fight

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

A steam deck lite would probably dominate, lol

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

It's a nice thought, at least.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, first they get shady patents and now this. They're really on a roll for being a pretty unethical company.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 6 points 5 hours ago

They're the Disney of gaming, really.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 35 points 13 hours ago

or alternatively communicated: “You will own nothing and you will be happy”

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 128 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ah. So now we're merely 'licensing' physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You always have with Nintendo products. They have always had very aggressive licensing practices. In the early days they were more flexing them on developers, but it does not surprise me that in the wake of everyone telling them that modding and emulators can be explicitly legal that they would turn that particularly litigious aspect of their family friendly brand on the customers.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Afaik not in Europe. But the details are probably messy.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 77 points 16 hours ago (11 children)

I don't seem how threatening to brick a device is intended to help you sell more of them. Like I was seriously considering buying a Switch 2 even recently, but this is really the nail in the coffin. Why should I pay money for something that could stop working on their whims? Because it's not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 34 points 14 hours ago

Because it's not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.

This is the part that really frustrates me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of the wording here. Account ban? Sure, against TOS, etc. But affecting the device is a whole other story. Especially when prior account bans have come under dubious circumstances.

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[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Can’t wait for Yuzu 2 to come out.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Apparently Torzo exists already!

Also knowing how butthurt Nintendo is rn it probably means Switch 2 is vulnerable to emulation so not that long probably.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 116 points 17 hours ago
[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Wait, it doesn't appear to be the same within the EU.

Both the French and German EULA seems to say that if you alter a digital product, the digital product might be rendered unusable. Although my French and German is bad, so someone please double check.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 62 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (7 children)

Yeah, definitely gonna stop those pirates who soft/hardmod their systems and never connect to the Internet/run updates in order to dump their games or play pirated copies or whatever they wanna do! That'll stop them!

/s

Edit:

This seems to be more about their online account services and their updated privacy policy than anything else, but I still think my point stands, just not for this article.

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[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 59 points 17 hours ago

Well that's some fucking bullshit.

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