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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 70 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, definitely gonna stop those pirates who soft/hardmod their systems and never connect to the Internet/run updates in order to dump their games or play pirated copies or whatever they wanna do! That'll stop them!

/s

Edit:

This seems to be more about their online account services and their updated privacy policy than anything else, but I still think my point stands, just not for this article.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The problem is when a new game is released that requires an update to a later firmware version.

I think I’ve had it before where the updates applied to the system from the game card.

Unless I misunderstood what was happening. We will have to wait for someone to figure that out.

I’m rooting for someone to home brew the switch 2 ASAP

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You'll probably have a while to wait.

The Switch 1 was able to run homebrew due to a hardware exploit in the CPU which allowed injection of arbitrary code. The interesting thing about that vulnerability being that since it was a hardware vulnerability, it couldn't be patched out even after it was discovered.

Following that incident, I'm sure Nintendo has been working especially hard to ensure there are no similar vulnerabilities existing on the Switch 2.

That said, console hackers are an amazingly creative and talented bunch, so I wouldn't be surprised by anything.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

Hard to say. Consoles have certainly gotten more sercure and people finding vulnerabilities are far less likely to just give them out for free these days

But there is incentive to hack any console and nintendo has historically attracted the biggest dorks. Additionally they also seem to historically make pretty huge blunders, though the switch exploit was nvidias fault tbf

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure all Nintendo consoles have had a problem with being hacked. As far back as the Wii, people were able to run hombrew pretty quickly.

I think Nintendo just sucks at console security or maybe they are a bigger target due to their exclusives.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ever since I learned about the RGH Xbox 360 mod I’ve just assumed every console will be cracked and emulated no matter what. People are fucking clever.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

You could have said that about every Nintendo console since the NES, yet here we are.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Firmware is dumped almost immediately as well, not a big deal to update a switch offline.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago

Well that's some fucking bullshit.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can’t wait for Yuzu 2 to come out.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Apparently Torzo exists already!

Also knowing how butthurt Nintendo is rn it probably means Switch 2 is vulnerable to emulation so not that long probably.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wait, it doesn't appear to be the same within the EU.

Both the French and German EULA seems to say that if you alter a digital product, the digital product might be rendered unusable. Although my French and German is bad, so someone please double check.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

🏴‍☠️

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Damn, first they get shady patents and now this. They're really on a roll for being a pretty unethical company.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

I know it should have been earlier, but that really is the last straw for buying Nintendo products for me.

what a shame.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They're going to start breaking them as soon as the switch 3 is released I guarantee it.

Also this seems like I don't know not theft Maybe, but some crime.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don’t see how this is different from any other company. Xbox has forever done the same. I’m pretty sure Sony has too

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

I don't see why I should be okay with that either.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hilarious that this comment is so far down, Lemmy can be such a circlejerk.

Sony and Xbox absolutely reserve the right to brick your console. IIRC Sony bricks stolen Playstation consoles if they ever connect to the internet. This is nothing new.

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah the Nintendo vitriol for the past month has been funny. I get it, companies are not our friends, and Nintendo has done a lot of shit to be mad at. The game keycards are dogwater, but this concept of buy cartridge and download the rest is not new. Sony and Xbox have literally done the same shit for years, and Nintendo did this with some large games on Switch 1.

Another comment showed Sony will brick hacked consoles that get on the internet. Switch 1 also does this.

The price sucks, but it's definitely tariffs, since the console is like a whole hundred dollars cheaper in Japan.

If you wanna pirate/emulate, pirate/emulate. I just don't like pirating current gen consoles, and it's a hassle to do so on Switch 1 if you got a newer one. Plus switch emulation on steam deck seems to be iffy for some games... I pirate/emulate old consoles cause they're dead and they're not making money on them anyway. Sometimes you just want to buy a game and enjoy them, especially for online ones like Splatoon.

I'll just wait for the price to be reasonable one day.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Microsoft and Sony don't brick your console if you hacked it; they'll ban you from online services and possibly deny any warranty claims if you bricked it yourself by mistake, but they don't make your device a paper weight.

[–] Einhornyordle@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sony may not do it, the same way Nintendo might not do it either, but both reserve the right to do so

Edit: If you take a look at the PLAYSTATION®5 SYSTEM SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT under "6. VIOLATION OF AGREEMENT; TERMINATION OF RIGHTS AND SIE INC REMEDIES", one of the possible actions they may take states:

disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Can the Switch itself even be hacked to run pirated stuff? I honestly never looked since emulation of it came fairly quick. Bricking the Switch won't stop anyone emulating on a PC lol

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

The very first model of the Switch can be soft-modded. Later revisions require a modchip.

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