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I was just thinking about this, when I'm facing an issue, the first thing I do is go to a search engine and usually there's a Reddit post. But I don't want to ask there. And the only way we're going to build up the info for folks to find us and come here is for us to just start asking here. On the Fediverse. We need to build up that mountain of knowledge that Reddit has and will always have. So we should be championing ANYONE asking questions here. Even if we think it's obvious and we think you can just Google it. There was a time where you literally couldn't just Google it. That was built over time. We need to build that here. So start asking your questions here! Find the answers and then post your answer to your own question. Or let someone do it for you. We need to build the knowledge here to be found. It's not just about people looking for alternatives. We need our knowledge to be more valuable than their knowledge.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

I don’t use reddit results much at all anymore thanks to it constantly trying to force me to use the app, which I don’t have. I do try to force lemmy into search results by adding it to the search terms when appropriate.

Problem is that Lemmy/Fediverse simply doesn’t have the established depth and breadth of information that reddit does yet, and reddit does have it because it sort of killed the internet forums that would have existed foe those subjects. I agree, it’d be great to have more knowledge sources in Lemmy. Growing the community types would be a start, but that needs people and participation, and growth is hard.

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[–] remon@ani.social 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Oh hell no. Lemmy is an extremely specific filter bubble and absolutely not suitable to replace even the worst search engine.

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago

I'm not saying LEMMY specifically. I'm on Piefed Social. I'm saying ANYWHERE on the Fediverse. Find your platform, build your platform.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Agreed. About the only thing I would search Lemmy for is obnoxious Linux snobbery. That, they have on lock.

[–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, if the information already exists on the web somewhere, why reiterate it? Seems excessive to insist on asking on the Fediverse unless that information can't be found on a search engine or through AI.

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Why not share it here? WHy not free the information? Someone could delete their Reddit post or Google could change their algorithm again tomorrow to suit their own needs. We're currently accepting the old system that's showing it can't be trusted. I say free the information. I might be naive though, but I have to try at least.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You need to remember first of all what sites like reddit, digg, and now Lemmy actually are. They are link aggregators. The content is anything and every thing. Just link to it. It's that simple. And if you feel it is in a place that might get removed, screenshot it, archive.org it, copy into an online Google Doc, and post that. There's no reason we need 500 identical "How do I do X?" posts just to fill content. Do you want 500 posts clogging your feed about how to fix the same printer issue over and over?

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[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Is there a way to encourage people to post more? Because the main problem seems to be getting actual posts, not replies to them.

For example "nostupidquestions" only has a few questions a day, but there are 40k subscribers and 1500 people or so checking in every day. It has 4.2k posts and 170k comments.

"asklemmy" has more posts, fewers subscribers, and over 2k a day check in. 6k posts and 317k comments.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

This is a habit that prevalent everywhere, even on reddit. Only 20 or even 10 % of people produce content and rest just watch/consume. If we can have that kind of split on lemmy, it would be fine.

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[–] ozoned@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago

This is what I'm getting at. We can only control ourselves, so let's be tenacious in posting more here. Again it doesn't have to be a technical question. It could just be "hey I had this issue I fixed it withblah". Whatever you're passionate in.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (5 children)

We need to seriously AI proof before that happens or the bots will clean us out and eat all our bandwidth. The only thing keep us safe is we are under the radar.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 22 hours ago

finally, a recipe with a unique killer flavor

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[–] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kagi has a search lens for Fediverse forums like Lemmy. More content in Lemmy will make that even better

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Just to save people a rabbithole.

Kagi is pretty cool. But it’s not free. And for most people who don’t have much disposable income it’s not really a justifiable expense to pay for a search engine.

[–] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I can sympathize with not having the money to pay for a search engine when others are free. Aside from the great results, I like the idea of paying for a search engine.

“If you aren’t paying for the product, you are the product being sold” is true, and I don’t want to use a search engine that is trying to sell me to advertisers. I want the company’s goals to be aligned with mine as a user. I want them to worry about making me happy as a user, not finding ways to show me ads.

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[–] Olap@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Reddit took many years to build that reputation. And earned creepy badges along the way. I'm not saying the fediverse doesn't need to do it, but let's not be in a rush. We have technical challenges, and a lemmy.world, and a .ml problem before we're ready for the big leagues

And being niche is fine for now, email was tiny for decades

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 3 points 16 hours ago

Idk if others remember, but Reddit had a LOT of technical challenges early on. Twitch was down constantly. YouTube was flaky early on. The technical part can be handled by those building the platforms and supporting the Fediverse. What can WE do RIGHT NOW? My thought is communicate, share, talk, empathize, listen, etc.

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[–] J52@lemmy.nz 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think it shouldn't be a competition but possibly something with added value. Possibly in the form of structure, ie something that doesn't create hundreds of same/similar questions but constantly updates the best answers closest to the existing date. (Alphabetically searchable hashtags, etc..., build it communally, ie #NoStupidQuestions , how to best build a free information platform?).

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, not a competition really, just post anything and on any Fediverse platform. We need to dog food the Fediverse. Let's stop taking the easy way. Sure, find an answer if you like, but come back here tondhare with all of us. We need to build our own library of Alexandria.

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

But can people find your question on lemmy by googling?

coz thats how i personally found reddit back in the day. And i'm sure it is part of how reddit grew to what it is today.

If google cant find you, you cannot be a success, is my guess. But of course, NOT being found on google has it advantages too.

I can find this topic by searching on lemmy

but i cannot search comments, which limits the usability somewhat

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago

If you can't find your answer on Lemmy or anywhere on the Fediverse, just ask. We need all kinds. No one answered after a few days, ask somewhere else. Use these moments to kick start conversations. It's more work, but it'll be worth it.

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[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (9 children)

There is one worry I have about Lemmy being the knowledge of anything and it’s what happened on reddit. Many people went through and nuked their comments, essentially making many posts useless. There are already people here on lemmy that delete their profiles, comments and start over every few months. Not really sure what that means for all the federation, but I assume different instances may have different versions of deleted information in the long run?

[–] trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

the whole point is a living breathing community, not a wiki

[–] trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

when somethings alive things die and go away forever, when everythings perserved it feels like a tomb, a place to record stuff not actively engage, im hella exagerating, I just like that ppl own their own content a bit more than reddit

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[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

100% agree and I would like to add on to it that it's worth just posting information, too.

Did you run into a weird error with your Linux install and have a difficult, yet interesting time troubleshooting it? Post the solution! Even if it doesn't directly address someone else's problem, often finding pieces of an issue and correlating them with a bigger problem can help.

I don't run a personal blog and downvotes mean literally nothing here, so have at it!

I went cold turkey on Reddit when they stopped API access and it was rough in the beginning, but I get ever so slightly hints of the old internet here on Lemmy. It's raw, but it's fresh and it's ours. I love it.

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