It was so insulting for him to come out and say he isn't a fan of the source material. Was it too much to ask to find someone who's passionate about Star Trek? I know they're out there.
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Come on'n get your jamaharon on! There are no real rules—just don't break the weather control network.
Exactly! If he was not a fan of any of the 60 years of source material perhaps he should’ve stepped aside and let someone who cares about Star Trek contribute to it
It is, or at least was, a strangely popular thing n Hollywood for people working on franchises to claim they knew nothing about them. A kind of “too cool for all this” vanity they were trying to project.
the guy who directed rogue one and the andor tv series isnt much of a fan of star wars, and those are two of the most acclaimed star wars projects since disney bought star wars
Although I do really like both of those and would probably put them at the top of the current generation of SW, they feel much less like SW properties and a lot more like they're wearing a SW skin. Which, you know, is fine since it's actually good and doesn't destroy the property. Even if you don't like Andor, they're still making a ton of just regular Star Wars shit.
JJ basically derailed Trek for those of us that actually like the type of thing Trek was doing for nearly a decade. Basically took until SNW to get an actual Trek show.
Star Wars is samurai movies with a skin on it. The whole thing is borrowed, in space. So it’s okay to have stories like Andor, Rogue One and Mando, etc because they mesh well with the general design of the universe.
Lower Decks is as far as Star Trek as it can be, and yet it fits very well in the universe. Because it respects itself and respect the source material.
JJ never respected the source material and the universe.
I love me some JJ Abrams hate. The man deserves it all and sooo much more.
What's annoying is that he's good at pacing and creating intrigue. He just never knows how stick the landing without turning the plot into swiss cheese.
Creating intrigue is relatively straightforward if you don’t worry about sticking the landing.
After seeing the rise of skywalker, I don't think I agree on the pacing bit.
Is he good at pacing? His movies are just go go go go without any room to breathe.
At least with Trek it was an alternate universe, rather than the canon he got his hands on with Wars.
Because of the nature of Trek, it was easy to retcon into an alternate universe. The world building in Star Wars didn't leave much room for that.
Maybe they can keep ignoring it for another decade, then write it off as a vision from the Dark Side.
Yeah, it's kinda funny how the supposedly more fantastical Star Wars has no really out there things like time travel or alternate universes.
It wasn't a retcon, though, it was conceived from the beginning as an alternate universe.
...Somehow, Abrams has returned...
Unless...
I've hated him since Lost. Possibly even Alias. Stupid mystery box bullcrap, Yeah, some unresolved mystery is fine. Your entire show shouldn't revolve around boatloads of them being insufficiently explained.
Eh I liked Star Trek 2009 and Force Awakens. I can get into how I dislike into darkness and episode 9 but not worth it.
I think if he had done ALL 3 sequel trilogy movies for starwars, it woukd have turned out much better.
JJ Abrams can only begin narratives. He has no idea how to solve any of his own mystery boxes.
Look at anything he's ever done and you will probably not find a satisfying conclusion.
He can start a narrative better than most creators, he just has no idea what do to with it once it's running.
I say give Zach Synder a wack at it.
I do need to see Picard snap Q's neck in cold blood.
Also it could be fun seeing Riker spend a whole film trying to kill Picard for no adequately explored reason.
Troi would be the saving grace of the film and end up with a separate stand-alone series of films that completely ignore all existing Trek canon.
The rest of the cast would also get solo movies, but ones forgotten either months after, or at worst, months before, their release dates.
That could be amazing!
Needs more sepia tone and Martha.
The films really weren't that bad
They were very typical “J.J. Abram’s has no idea what a franchise is actually about”. He actually admitted not having seen any extra materials about the franchise before making the movies, and rehashed existing storylines because it’s safe.
JJ Abrams is loved by the studios for the very same reasons he’s dreaded by the fans.
Yep. I liked them. Movie Trek has always been action anyways. He did some shit I really enjoyed honestly. Like Kirk being a rocker totally fucking fits.
The validity of your comment really depends on which movie franchise you’re referencing
I also don't want Rian Johnson or Kathleen Kennedy anywhere near Star Wars or Star Trek anymore. Can we add them to the list as well.
Abrams' "additions" to the Star Wars setting drove me back to learning about what the Old Republic era was all about; I'm so sorry y'all had to deal with him too.