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To help contribute, here's the only meme I've ever done, which I did in response to news that Abrams was working on a new ST movie. And after seeing how well the franchise is going with SNW and LD, I feel it's even more appropriate.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 85 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It was so insulting for him to come out and say he isn't a fan of the source material. Was it too much to ask to find someone who's passionate about Star Trek? I know they're out there.

[–] armus@startrek.website 43 points 2 years ago

Exactly! If he was not a fan of any of the 60 years of source material perhaps he should’ve stepped aside and let someone who cares about Star Trek contribute to it

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

It is, or at least was, a strangely popular thing n Hollywood for people working on franchises to claim they knew nothing about them. A kind of “too cool for all this” vanity they were trying to project.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the guy who directed rogue one and the andor tv series isnt much of a fan of star wars, and those are two of the most acclaimed star wars projects since disney bought star wars

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Although I do really like both of those and would probably put them at the top of the current generation of SW, they feel much less like SW properties and a lot more like they're wearing a SW skin. Which, you know, is fine since it's actually good and doesn't destroy the property. Even if you don't like Andor, they're still making a ton of just regular Star Wars shit.

JJ basically derailed Trek for those of us that actually like the type of thing Trek was doing for nearly a decade. Basically took until SNW to get an actual Trek show.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Star Wars is samurai movies with a skin on it. The whole thing is borrowed, in space. So it’s okay to have stories like Andor, Rogue One and Mando, etc because they mesh well with the general design of the universe.

Lower Decks is as far as Star Trek as it can be, and yet it fits very well in the universe. Because it respects itself and respect the source material.

JJ never respected the source material and the universe.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love me some JJ Abrams hate. The man deserves it all and sooo much more.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What's annoying is that he's good at pacing and creating intrigue. He just never knows how stick the landing without turning the plot into swiss cheese.

[–] semi_sentient@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Creating intrigue is relatively straightforward if you don’t worry about sticking the landing.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

After seeing the rise of skywalker, I don't think I agree on the pacing bit.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Is he good at pacing? His movies are just go go go go without any room to breathe.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

At least with Trek it was an alternate universe, rather than the canon he got his hands on with Wars.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because of the nature of Trek, it was easy to retcon into an alternate universe. The world building in Star Wars didn't leave much room for that.

Maybe they can keep ignoring it for another decade, then write it off as a vision from the Dark Side.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, it's kinda funny how the supposedly more fantastical Star Wars has no really out there things like time travel or alternate universes.

It wasn't a retcon, though, it was conceived from the beginning as an alternate universe.

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...Somehow, Abrams has returned...

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Needs more lens flare:

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've hated him since Lost. Possibly even Alias. Stupid mystery box bullcrap, Yeah, some unresolved mystery is fine. Your entire show shouldn't revolve around boatloads of them being insufficiently explained.

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[–] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Eh I liked Star Trek 2009 and Force Awakens. I can get into how I dislike into darkness and episode 9 but not worth it.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think if he had done ALL 3 sequel trilogy movies for starwars, it woukd have turned out much better.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

JJ Abrams can only begin narratives. He has no idea how to solve any of his own mystery boxes.

Look at anything he's ever done and you will probably not find a satisfying conclusion.

He can start a narrative better than most creators, he just has no idea what do to with it once it's running.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Who knew throwing away your plans twice in a trilogy would backfire?

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I say give Zach Synder a wack at it.

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I do need to see Picard snap Q's neck in cold blood.

Also it could be fun seeing Riker spend a whole film trying to kill Picard for no adequately explored reason.

Troi would be the saving grace of the film and end up with a separate stand-alone series of films that completely ignore all existing Trek canon.

The rest of the cast would also get solo movies, but ones forgotten either months after, or at worst, months before, their release dates.

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[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Needs more sepia tone and Martha.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The films really weren't that bad

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

They were very typical “J.J. Abram’s has no idea what a franchise is actually about”. He actually admitted not having seen any extra materials about the franchise before making the movies, and rehashed existing storylines because it’s safe.

JJ Abrams is loved by the studios for the very same reasons he’s dreaded by the fans.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep. I liked them. Movie Trek has always been action anyways. He did some shit I really enjoyed honestly. Like Kirk being a rocker totally fucking fits.

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[–] Sawzall@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope you are talking about star trek.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The validity of your comment really depends on which movie franchise you’re referencing

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[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I also don't want Rian Johnson or Kathleen Kennedy anywhere near Star Wars or Star Trek anymore. Can we add them to the list as well.

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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Abrams' "additions" to the Star Wars setting drove me back to learning about what the Old Republic era was all about; I'm so sorry y'all had to deal with him too.

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