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https://twitter.com/StephNoh/status/1722640590041461182?t=RI-57QRr95_-f4ux_Czlxg&s=19

Alex Caruso gave Kevin Durant hell last night. Deep dive on how he did it.

Turn sound on to hear why Caruso is a defensive savant.

Breakdown of Caruso's performance defensively last night vs the Suns.

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[–] zell2929@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] LostNPC01@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That's cool, thanks. I hope there would be more analysis like this that are both interesting and helpful to really understand the game.

[–] eggydoo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DarkKnightCometh@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's funny how r/nba turns on a dime as soon as a player leaves the lakers. Caruso went from overrated to defensive savant.

Oubre + Caruso statue will be special.

[–] tisdue@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

KD's handle is getting looser by the day. I get worried every time he brings it up now.

[–] wjbc@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Durant is 6’ 11”. Caruso is 6’ 5”, 6 inches shorter.

[–] neurotido@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You didn’t account for the dawg coefficient.

[–] Long_Chance3583@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Can we please see Caruso play for a real contender during his prime?

I’ll never get over the Lakers choosing THT over Caruso.

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[–] thebranbran@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

1st team all defense for a reason. He’s had trouble staying healthy the last couple seasons but this man should be in the starting lineup. I hope whatever decisions the Bulls make this year they keep Caruso.

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[–] Skywalkerkid9@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like the bulls could use 2 FRP and KJ Martin for him tbh

[–] gheudh@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Will love when he’s on the bucks

[–] Poopscooper696969@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] rumblegod@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Was a good look tho by KD lol. Not taking away from the analysis just saying

[–] jayinscarb@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

We really throw around the term savant a lot for athletes don't we

[–] jdeckro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Durant had 25 points on 7-16 shooting. Seemed like a pretty standard night for him.

[–] KnickedUp@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Durant had a pretty normal night. 6-13 with Csruso as defender

[–] Technician-Temporary@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Bulls have the best trade assets in the league. Someone tell them what to doz

Wolves need Caruso off the bench. Go all in on defense.

[–] snowlarbear@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

knowing this org, they'll probably do nothing until the value of the assets drop to near zero.

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[–] LakersFan15@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t want any of their players besides Caruso and maybe Pat because he’s young.

As Dwight Howard once said “the D was good tonight”

[–] Ephesis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is content that i want to see in this sub

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[–] fuckitiroastedyou@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Durant playing in white on Chicago's home court really makes him look like a Bull

[–] onaneckonaspit7@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tells Lavine how to stop the play, stills allows the dunk

That must be frustrating

[–] NAMESPLISSKEN@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Zach "the unforced turnover machine" Lavine is the physically embodiment of frustrating

[–] gosuruss@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are 11 players who have ranked in the top 3 in either 3 year RAPM (unadjusted or luck-adjusted) in the past 10 years.

  • Jokic

  • Embiid

  • Kawhi

  • Tatum

  • Giannis

  • PG13

  • Curry

  • Lebron

  • CP3

  • Lowry

  • Caruso

That's the list. The plus minus data suggests he's a slight positive on offense, and the most impactful defensive guard per possession we've ever seen. He lead the league in forced turnovers per 100 last year, on top of being an excellent contester. Obviously, he plays less minutes, so he has less cumulative impact than the other guys on this list.

source: https://www.nbarapm.com

Same with Manu. At his position and role, he was one of the most impactful players of all time.

[–] Public-Product-1503@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No offence but the actual more advanced n better plus minus derived data like epm show he’d a big negative on offence but his defence value is higher. Ultimately I’m gonna go with eye test . Those metrics are clearly flawed . Caruso doesn’t start or get starter minutes for a bad team. On a good team or in the playoffs he’ll get treated like 2021 playoffs : dared to shoot n ignored , passes out of good looks, doesn’t shoot well etc he’s a non factor on offence and it’s why he was let go ultimately. I miss him so does ever lakers fan but it’s absurd if you watched him to think he’s nothing but a niche filling role player. His offence looks far worse too especially without Bron. He’s not a player contenders are dying for because they watch every game and see him routinely go scoreless or hit one shot. Still has uses but flaws , that he can’t grow out of .

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[–] IntraspaceAlien@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Caruso did play excellent defense. One thing that has been crazy since KD has been here though is how physical teams are allowed to get with him off-ball. There were some replays on turnovers last night that I couldn’t believe weren’t called, seems like the scouting report is just to be as physical as possible with him before he gets the entry pass because that does work, and over the course of the game the refs just kind of don’t want to call every grab or shove away from the ball that would be a fouls in a lot of situations. Not anything unique to Caruso, happens in a ton of our games.

[–] mommathecat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Caruso absolutely plays insanely physical defence; Bulls game I was watching recently, I forget against who, the other team's announcers were constantly saying "look at what the refs are letting Caruso get away with, good god this guy just kicks your ass."

He's not the only one, I'm sure Jrue, Marcus Smart, OG, Dillon Brooks, are right up into people if we look at the tape. Hell FVV spent the entire '19 Finals basically holding Steph Curry.

I can't tell you whether this is a case of "well this is just the way it is in the NBA, a certain level of physicality is allowed on D" or that those guys all have a reputation as great defenders, so they get away with playing physical. Little bit of both?

[–] dating_derp@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ya I'd love it if refs called this off-ball physicality more to protect star players. Ignore my flair.

Trigun reference Holy moley

[–] fittedsuit2018@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] threeangelo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, lakers sure could use a guy like that.

[–] Kooblam@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Awesome insight and boy do I miss Caruso

[–] Capo_capo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep this dude in the EC please

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[–] pizzapocketchange@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

why isn't he starting?

[–] PersonFromPlace@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Sick Trigun reference

[–] ineedcoffeealready@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Wolves should trade for him at the deadline, id love to have another defensive guru on the team!

[–] skerton17s@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t know how, but Caruso still seems underrated on the defensive end.

[–] godfrey1@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T WE SIGN BALD MAMBA I WILL NEVER FUCKING KNOW

[–] LakersFan15@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We didn’t pay this guy because we wanted Westbrook lol

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[–] ASS_EATIN_SZN_69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

“Makes players uncomfortable by getting in there body”

Aka fouling dudes off ball.

[–] papichino88@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a simple man, when I see Alex Caruso content, I smash the upvote button.

[–] Factsonly98@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best post I've seen on r/nba all month. Thank you for this.

[–] ImanShumpertplus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

great analysis

love caruso. he is a legitimate menace on defense

[–] edwardsscreenname@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Can’t wait til Sixers scoop this guy at the deadline

[–] SkylessRocket@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Always a shame seeing good talent wasted on crap teams.

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