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How do we know that the people on reddit aren't talking to bots? Now, or in the future? what about lemmy?

Even If I am on a human instance that checks every account on PII, what about those other instances? How do I know as a server admin that I can trust another instance?

I don't talk about spam bots. Bots that resemble humans. Bots that use statistical information of real human beings on when and how often to post and comment (that is public knowledge on lemmy).

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[–] hefejefe@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Just give The Dead Internet Theory a read.

Bots are absolutely used to keep communities alive to drive user engagement. Reddit for sure does it.

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[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago

I can learn. Teach me something and quiz me about it

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except you

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

Are we all bots?
Always have been /̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

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[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

I don't know, would you solve this for me ? 🧓🧑‍🦰🧑‍🏭🤖🧓🧓👨‍⚖️👨‍✈️👨‍🎤

[–] BodePlotHole@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I am a bot, and I'm super not-happy about it.

[–] erytau@programming.dev 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You don't. I don't. We don't. My comment could have been written by AI, just as your post. At some point I'm sure some of us, without knowing, had a discussion with an AI bot pushing some sort of propaganda or shilling something. I mean, it was happening even before AI - years before, and some political regimes have been flooding the internet with their shit and it was well documented. Now it's just getting worse.

Even "vetted account run by a real person" can be later handed over to an AI bot farm.

Also, I have fun imagining a bunch of AI bots stuck in a discussion loop, endlessly shilling crap to each other, creating insanely long threads until the platform can't handle it anymore or until a Mod AI comes along and slaps them out of it.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

You don't :D

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago

Ask for a community meeting, so you can see that those people are real.

Despite that, I don't see any effective counter measure in the long run.

Currently, sure, with a keen eye you might be able to spot characteristics of one or the other LLM. But that'd be a lucky find.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] fishos@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Frankly, at this point, I just assume. The old joke was something like everyone on the internet is a man, except for the children, those are FBI agents. Now I just assume everyone is a bot.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There’s no airtight way to prove someone online isn’t a bot. Even “proof” can be spoofed. But here’s the thing, conversation, nuance, humor, mistakes, and context sensitivity are hard for bots to fake consistently. Ask something personal. Something complex. Something off-the-wall. See how they handle it.

And even then, trust has to be earned over time. One post doesn’t make a person, or a bot.

Suspicion is healthy. Certainty is rare.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I havent seen any AI that writes gouvernment as "gouvernment"

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You don't, aside from like perhaps a handful of those you might've met IRL (if you have friends, that is).

Even then, how do you even know that other minds exist?

They seem to be sentient, sapient, and conscious, I mean they have to be, right? Same species and all...

But what if they're not. What if they're all just robots?

Or Simulated? Or just a figment of your imagination?

Maybe nothing exists. Maybe there is no meaning.

Perhaps, the true meaning of life is nihilism.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk, goodbye, and Class Dismissed.

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[–] Nounka@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Cogito ergo sum

Biep biep

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That is easy. Ask us to solve a captcha. If we struggle then we are real human beings.

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[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Lemmy is too niche to spend money on running bots. There’s no profit, nothing to achieve. Reddit, on the other hand…

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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I think at this point you'd have to visit each one of us in person to be sure.

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