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https://official.nba.com/rule-no-12-fouls-and-penalties/

An official may assess a technical foul, without prior warning, at any time. A technical foul(s) may be assessed to any player on the court or anyone seated on the bench for conduct which, in the opinion of an official, is detrimental to the game. The technical foul must be charged to an individual. A technical foul cannot be assessed for physical contact when the ball is alive.

So as the ball was live when Draymond's shove happened (https://imgur.com/a/sbkQB1K), why did they assess the T for it retroactively? Flagrant or common foul if they did not think the contact was enough for flagrant imo.

Truly a Ben Taylor special.

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[–] DontBanMe_IWasJoking@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

maybe if he didnt yell at the refs all the time they would have called it in his favour. karmas a bitch, just like draymond

[–] cyb3ryung@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

where is the rule that says refs get to go back and assess a foul from a prior play?

[–] SquimJim@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably the easiest way to throw him out of the game. Dude needed to get ejected. Guess they could have given him a flagrant 2 instead.

Though they could at any point say that his continued antics were detrimental to the game.

[–] Amargaladaster@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Probably the easiest way to throw him out of the game.

Would have been easier and more deserved if they gave him second tech when he was jawing with Allen 2 minutes before this situation, I was expecting it in that moment, lol.

This just feels all so weird.

[–] BlockOfTheYear@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

A technical foul cannot be assessed for physical contact when the ball is alive.

Doesn't this just mean that they have to stop the play, before they assess if it should be a tecnichal or not?

Like, they cant just give a tecnichal for physical contact during a live play, they have to stop the play and determine the correct "punishment" first. Which they did, and then assessed after video review that it should be a tecnichal.

[–] Desperado-781@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Let this be known.....we do not care. Draymond is the one person in the league who i do not mind gettin fucked by the refs.

[–] Amargaladaster@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So I guess it's indeed impossible to have a normal discussion about rules if it involves Draymond, lol.

Refs fucked up by giving him a wrong foul, then fucked up again by giving Spida just a common foul and it is a common occurence in this season (JJJ, Giannis ejections etc), but lets just focus on "Fuck Draymond".

[–] Desperado-781@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I watched draymond nutcracker his way to the finals, stomp on ppls chest. I do not care if he gets fucked I for one enjoy the refs finally giving draymond what he deserves .

[–] PSi_Terran@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Mate Dray had already 5 offenses that could have been given techs. Obviously no-one is thinking the way this all went down was without error but eventually we arrived at the correct outcome, so you're gonna have a hard time convincing anyone otherwise.

[–] inspectordaddick@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes it is impossible to have a normal discussion about rules in regards to dray because he literally breaks rules and gets away with it constantly.

Cry bout it.

[–] smkmn13@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cry bout it.

The irony of "cry about it" when you're literally saying "we won't talk to you /will downvotes you about this interesting wrinkle in the rules that may have been misapplied because I don't like that guy and he makes me so mad!"

[–] inspectordaddick@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

“Oh no people criticized my favorite bully what will I do.”

Cry more

[–] smkmn13@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

So I guess it's indeed impossible to have a normal discussion about rules if it involves Draymond, lol.

This is abundantly clear - I don't like Draymond (or the Warriors lol but good luck tonight) but I like rules discussions / referee accountability. The downvotes you're getting on here make it pretty clear everybody would rather just shit on Draymond / say "he deserves it no matter what!" than actually have a discussion about the rules.

[–] GhostfaceThrillah@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

He also didn’t get fucked by the refs….there were 2 incidents right before this happened where he easily should’ve been given his 2nd tech but somehow got away with both of them. One of the times he drew a charge on Allen, got up, screamed in his face, bumped into him and kept screaming and somehow didn’t get his 2nd tech. Then 1 minute later he pushes Mitchell out of bounds

[–] EdwEd1@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Oh no, one unjustified tech to go along with the 20+ he deserved but never got

[–] BruinBound22@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love how you left off the very last piece.

An official may assess a technical foul, without prior warning, at any time. A technical foul(s) may be assessed to any player on the court or anyone seated on the bench for conduct which, in the opinion of an official, is detrimental to the game. The technical foul must be charged to an individual. A technical foul cannot be assessed for physical contact when the ball is alive. EXCEPTION: Fighting fouls and/or taunting with physical contact.

Most likely they found it a fighting foul?

[–] NeonxGone@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

He also screamed right in Allen’s face in the first half and received nothing.

[–] WizardOfCleveland@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe if Draymond wasn't such a bitch...

[–] KsumNoleNoSmart@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

That's called Karma. Let Dreymond take half a dozen kick to the balls, then I'll start feeling bad for him.

[–] Inevitable-Paint-650@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I mean the fact that Draymond will stomp on a dude’s chest and call the crowd foul names and still get defended by some players that tells you a lot. But most of us a kinda used to it, east teams probably aren’t

[–] Rkenne16@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I think Cavs fans are well aware of Draymond lol

[–] PoolePartyVIP@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Your dude literally injured a player for half a season with a dirty shove in the back

[–] Scoot2028MVP@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Green could go full Chris Brown and Warriors fans would still defend him.

[–] HazelKittenDude@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So tell me why u dumb ass warriors fans hate Dillon brooks but defend Draymond to eternity when they both play the same way?! Straight up hypocrites.

[–] WilsonianSmith@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Because DB broke the code!

[–] jett1406@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

iffy application but correct result

[–] Historical_Chair_708@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The biggest bitch to ever play the game.

[–] FatherHaz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Who gives a fuck, it’s the beginning of the season. It wasn’t an important game.

[–] wentzwagonLII@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Can the nba just get rid of Draymond at this point. Dudes an embarrassment

[–] Mobleybetta@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Warriors fans seriously trying to litigate an ejection in a regular season game? Draymond earned that tech 5x over. Can’t scream at refs, can’t scream in Jarrett’s face and body block him from getting down the court, and you can’t shove a player in the back and send him into the stands.

Get over it. y’all lost but still have a better record than us. You’re a good team that doesn’t need Draymond to be such a dick

[–] unibball@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You’re a good team that doesn’t need Draymond ~~to be such a dick~~

FTFY

[–] bigbenis2021@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

All you restarts in this thread make me want Kerr to just implement this strategy all the time and any time one of his players shoves another dude just point out some stupid shit that happened on the other end.

[–] tapk69@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Just trade Curry and rebuild. Its not that deep.

[–] xGrav1ty@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

RULE NO. 13: Instant Replay
Section II—Reviewable Matters
d. If an instant replay review is triggered as described in Section I – a (4) above, the Replay Center Official and on-court officials would review the video to determine only the following issues:

  1. The identity of all players, coaches, trainers, or team bench persons involved in the Altercation and the action immediately prior to and immediately following the altercation.

  2. The level of involvement of each such player , coach, trainer, or team bench person.

  3. The appropriate penalty to be assessed against each such player, coach, trainer, or team bench person.

It is on the rule that the officials can assess a tech for a play immediately preceding an altercation.