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Source: https://stathead.com/tiny/sB4q2

Context: Box Plus/Minus (BPM) is a basketball box score-based metric that estimates a basketball player’s contribution to the team when that player is on the court.

Rk Player BPM Season
1 Nikola Jokic 14.6 2023-24
2 Nikola Jokic 13.7 2021-22
3 LeBron James 13.2 2008-09
4 Nikola Jokic 13.0 2022-23
5 Michael Jordan 13.0 1987-88
6 Nikola Jokic 12.1 2020-21
7 Michael Jordan 12.0 1990-91

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[–] KingRicimer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah because it overweights centers who rack up assists. I don’t understand why they reworked the formula after Westbrook “broke” it with his rebounding but haven’t done so for Jokic’s passing. Neither had better seasons than Prime MJ and LeBron.

[–] CofTheEast@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone is responding butthurt because you said Jokic doesn’t have a season as good as Prime Michael Jordan lol.

While completely ignoring the real point which is this metric is biased towards centers and literally gives them more points for things like assists.

[–] No_Engineering_4925@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Or maybe you center actually being the best passer in the league is just that valuable?

[–] Zombiepirate86@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It calculates your position, it doesn't go off listed position. Jokic is not a center under the BPM formula he is a forward just like Lebron.

[–] Johnyyyyyyyyy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ok then, find me a stat that Jokic is bad in. Y'all will say anything before giving him the respect he deserves.

[–] MrAppleSpoink@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Question, why are we still using box score metrics when so much tracking data is available? Things like EPM are so much better yet we practically refuse to use them for some reason.

[–] Zombiepirate86@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

EPM is a fantasy sports based model that is forward predicting with seasonality. It spits out a number that essentially ranks who the model thinks is going to have a better next game.

BPM is a backwards facing model that tries to tell you who has had a better season so far.

For almost all of these types of posts BPM is better, because you are asking who has been better so far not who is going to do better next game MJ or Jokic.