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Link to the article without the paywall

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 88 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Disney isn't fighting for the little guy. They will still agressively use it to cull their own workforce. They want to control who can use it and don't want to compete against an indie animation scene.

This is corporate AI against open source AI.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is corporate AI against open source AI.

Show me where I can download Midjourneys full model to run it locally and then we can agree to call it "open weights". Unless their base model and training data is also available, it's not open source.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

These lawsuits set precedents. The laws will apply to midjourney as much as the open source, but the big players can buy the data.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 58 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It’s hard to feel sympathetic for Disney when they have more money than god.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

In this case that's exactly what we need, someone with more money than god that can set precedents to protect the authors and artists that need it the most.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 57 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Disney is not going to protect authors and artists.

[–] kenopsik@piefed.social 21 points 3 days ago

Correct. If anything, Disney is only fighting somebody else exploiting their employees so they can protect their right to exploit their employees.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

American law works on precedents, this will be one

It doesn’t matter it was the evil empire getting that result

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It doesn’t matter it was the evil empire getting that result

It does if it only benefits evil empires. The open source tools can't afford the price which only leaves the big AI companies that can and Disney who holds the data.

All this will do is add a fat price tag and censorship. Artists will not get paid and AI will not go away, the jobs will still be lost. It's the worst of both worlds.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you really think now that Meta pirated all possible books (and argued they just didn’t seed them) the normal guys will get the same treatment?

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Has someone sued Meta for that and has the court given a precedent?

[–] propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying copyright and patent laws only exist to help rich people?

I guess that would make all of the workers defending them 'useful idiots' then.

[–] IsaamoonKHGDT_6143@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If patents did not exist, many people would be surprised that their medical expenses would be cheaper.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

That’s just one side of the coin.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I understand. That being said, my feelings remain mixed.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

Paraphrasing Churchill, if AI companies were plagiarizing hell's works I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil.

[–] die444die@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

And they just fired Terry Moran for the mildest tweet critical of the current administration imaginable.

I legit just cancelled my Disney+/hulu/espn account over it.

[–] propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 6 points 3 days ago

They got that money because of strong enforcement of copyright protections.

Without copyright laws, everyone could've just shared Disney's shit without fear of repercussion and they would have billions less while we collectively have billions more.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

everyone has more money than god though

[–] lmr0x61@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Hey man, the only people who can challenge the new oligarchs, so it seems, are the old oligarchs. And I say: let them fight!

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

There are solid gold or platinum asteroids out there, but God only gave us the resources of earth in the bible.

So God is definitely richer than Disney.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Nvidia can do a hostile takeover of Disney if they wanted to

[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This could be the first sign of AI bubble bursting.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago

MORE!

Oh, I've been sued by Disney.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You know the timeline is absolutely fucking fucked when you want Disney to win a copyright lawsuit. 😬

We actually don't. This won't kill AI, this will mean only conglomerates like Disney can own AI.

[–] propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I dunno, we've seen corporations come at each other many times before.

Most of you people won't understand this, but copyright and patent laws aren't going to be around forever. They don't help the working class and it's only a matter of time before new generations rise above our tunnel vision and indoctrination.

I mean, just look at this case a prime example. Who is the one suing? Disney. Who stands to benefit? Disney.

Are the random joe's suing? No, they can't afford it. The laws do not exist to protect them. It's another reason why we never see big corporations challenge copyright and patent laws. They know they make more money with them.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's just ironic because Disney is directly responsible for why copyright is so fucked up now.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don't see the irony. They perceive AI as a loop hole and need to squash it to keep their grip on things. If anybody can just prompt a movie in ten years, their business is dead. If a small group of indie animators can make a fully fledged movie, their business is dead.

They made it fucked up in their favor, this lawsuit is a continuation of that.

[–] IsaamoonKHGDT_6143@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

It seems like we're going back to the 90s.

When Microsoft wanted to destroy Linux, Another similar arc is coming. I wonder if there will be other Halloween docs.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago
[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 points 3 days ago
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 15 points 3 days ago

Link to the article without the paywall

New York Times Sues Fediverse Commenter for Copyright Infringement

[–] WhiteRabbit@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago

Very interesting time to be a lawyer.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

I'd say do it more... generate more star wars media until Disney gives it up as a golden goose to milk. Doesn't matter if it's ai or whatever fuck disney...

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago
[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is gonna be interesting. I really hope Disney wins. Then any artist can take this as a template to file their own lawsuits.

when disney wins there will be nothing left to sue, with the result that now the entertainment industry, which has the available training data, will also have the AI technology, and the only one who profits is disney - because in this situation all open source GenAI is fucked.