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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

And WMDs were my generation's Gulf of Tonkin incident, and another generation's USS Maine.

There was no corner of the known world where some interest was not alleged to be in danger or under actual attack. If the interests were not Roman, they were those of Rome's allies; and if Rome had no allies, then allies would be invented. When it was utterly impossible to contrive such an interest—why, then it was the national honor that had been insulted. The fight was always invested with an aura of legality. Rome was always being attacked by evil-minded neighbors, always fighting for a breathing space. The whole world was pervaded by a host of enemies, and it was manifestly Rome's duty to guard against their indubitably aggressive designs. They were enemies who only waited to fall on the Roman people.

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[–] refract@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

They'll be really upset when they realize young people wont sign up to fight another oil war for a country that is actively enslaving them.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The youth won't save us. There's millions of people who grew up in conservative households believing that killing brown people is the (only) American Way.

[–] refract@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Valid point, my intention was to highlight that the younger generation is generally more self-focused and has better access to the information (if they seek it). Be that a good or bad thing, with enlistment numbers dwindling, I presume it has more to do with better access to information and self preservation dwarfing the maga need to eliminate 'non-whites'.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Young people are not automatically good just because they are young. There are murderous fascist young people as well.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

what's the excuse they're going with?

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Iran was "days away" from getting a nuke.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

even if that were true, the principle of M.A.D. suggests that for maximal stability, opposing factions should have nukes. Iran not having nukes is too big of an advantage for Israel, even if nobody ever uses them.

[–] rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Nothing new, the MSM has always been the propaganda mouthpiece for the gov't and the war machine. Look for independent reporters, substack and the like, for real news.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

independent reporters, substack and the like, for real news.

But they don't hand out branded tote bags that I can take to brunch to let the gals know I donated.....

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago

Also they are so negative all the time!

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Democracy Now!, TYT, Breaking Points, etc... you'll get some differing opinions at times, but way more truth than MSM.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 15 hours ago

Oh, you mean how Israel was created in the first place? That's odd.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world -4 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

So as long as they're fighting Israel, I'm supposed to give a fuck now? I'm sorry.. but fuck Iran.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes. No country or group is 100% good. But if one is far better than the other, you support the one that is better.

This is called critical support.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 12 hours ago

I'd say let them fight but they're going to try to drag other people into it

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Better country than Israel, only one has committed genocide.