growing up watching stafford it was hard to get away from wanting that gunslinger bombs away qb but goff's style is really growing on me and can be fun to watch him march down the field and really be a field general, win win trade 100%
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Rams have a Super Bowl ring and the lions have welllll .. no rings .. Rams won that deal
I don't really give Stafford that much credit for the Super Bowl (which is the argument people use to say it was a great trade). Let's try to be objective. In 2019 the Rams (with Goff) lost to the New England Patriots, Tom Brady and Belichick. They lost to a dynasty that was making its 3rd straight Super Bowl.
In 2022 the Rams (with Stafford) got lucky against the 49ers (interception should have been caught to end game). Then they faced the Bengals in Super Bowl. As much as you might like the Bengals and Burrow, not the same as playing against the Patriots, Brady and Belichick.
So in totality, I don't think Stafford was the reason Rams won the SB; nor do I think Goff was reason Rams lost the SB.
Do I think Stafford is better QB than Goff... the jury is out.
Staffords playoff run in 2021 was head and shoulders better than any of Goffs playoff performances.
Goff has improved a lot now no question. He’s played like a top 10 at times top 5 QB. Let’s see how it goes in the postseason.
Rams won on their part
Lions are probably going to be in QB purgatory for the next 3-4 years. If they win a playoff game I'd say both parties won.
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One has a super bowl ring and the other is top 5 for the year.
Seems like a win/win trade if there ever was one
I'm not sure Goff is a top 5 QB this year but he's up there.
Top 5 where? On the Lions?
Can’t be a win-win if one team got a SB and the other hasn’t (yet). Not saying the Lions lost, but the jury is still out on them.
Even if Stafford retires tomorrow and Goff goes on to win a superbowl this season, its still a win win trade both ways
The Goff and Mcvay relationship had deteriorated. Badly. Goff needed a hard reset and to be humbled a little. Thats built him into the QB he is today. Mcvay just needed someone with slight more talent (at the time mind you) to put all the chips in on and make a run. They both come out winners. Rooting for Jared. Stafford is still good but i am curious to see if rams are gonna move him and just opt for a fresh QB in the building
Yeah, they did what they wanted and won a SB in that window
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They got a cup we got our guy
Until you realize that the Rams still would have won it with Goff.
It was the perfect trade.
People want there to be a winner/loser to a trade so bad. Sometimes motives for a trade are different. Both teams achieved their motive, and the league is better for it
Yeah, Rams needed a QB to get them over the edge, Lions needed draft picks to rebuild. We got really lucky that Goff was also a long term solution and it sped up the rebuild a lot. Lions also weren’t going to be able to win a Super Bowl with Stafford and not the extra draft capital. Both teams are better off for the trade, nobody regrets it, nobody lost
I feel like people are trying to math a way to the Rams losing this trade. They won a Super Bowl, they won the trade. The Lions also won the trade.
It's literally this easy, the rams did not make that move with long term in mind, they wanted to win that year and they did. It worked. Lions wanted to rebuild and it set the rebuild up perfectly. I don't think either side is disappointed with how it's turned out. Rams knew very well this would happen a couple of years after.
No complaints :)
This is how trades are literally supposed to work. If you aren't contending for championships right now, trade your aging high-value assets in exchange for pieces to rebuild. If you ARE contending for championships, sell out your future for pieces to win immediately. Worked out perfectly for both sides.
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The Rams got a ring. The Lions got substantial tools to rebuild and are currently threatening to take the NFC one-seed.
There are no losers in this trade.
I think the Rams got exactly what they were hoping for. So win for them.
I think the Lions have probably gotten more out of Goff than they expected. So win for them, with the possibility that he can still take the team to at least a conference championship in the next year or two.
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Another rare feat of a win/win trade. Definitely didn’t look like that the first year but from the bye last year to now. Goff has been playing like a top 5-7 qb to warrant keeping him(he showed flashes though earlier than that but it was then where he kept it going)
One got a Super Bowl ring and regressed with age.
The other has gotten better as more weapons developed around him.
The rare win win
Well one is in his prime years and one is sunsetting.
Here’s the thing. Goff was never going to work out with McVay. He is a hyperactive in the moment coach. For me, that’s always been his biggest negative. He does not have any patience, none. Not during games, and not when it comes to looking ahead.
He’s a now guy. Us Rams fans have learned to accept this fact.
Goff found success with McVay because of two things, OL play and having Todd Gurley and Cooper Kupp. That made defenses have to settle back for just about every snap.
Goff has the cannon, and he has the accuracy too. But, when he was a Ram he still needed time. When he didn’t have time he was an absolute mess. Not a terrible QB, but he just didn’t have what McVay wanted back there.
He’s grown as a player, and a person. Campbell gave him the leeway to find his comfort zone and got him a great OL.
I was, and still am a believer in Goff. I enjoy watching him, and I hope he takes Motor City to the promised land, I really do.
However, there is not a chance in hell. I mean zero chance that Goff engineers the drive that Staff Daddy engineered with just him and Coop to win the SB. That shit was just him and CK in the sandlot. It was glorious, and as a Rams fan I wouldn’t trade that drive for anything.
Good luck Jared, the KC game was legendary, and I hope you can be legendary in Detroit, but Staff Daddy got us The Drive and The Ring.
Rings all around would make me happy, and my buddy that is a Lions fan feels the same way. No hard feelings, everyone is cool. I hope it goes that way eventually.
Until Detroit wins a Super Bowl LA wins the trade
I don’t get why we keep doing this. Both teams won.
I’m biased but I feel it would be way more fun to win a Super Bowl for Detroit vs Los Angeles. You party in the Super Bowl town first anyway. I think that parade would be way more fun.
An aging Rams team was able to cash in with Stafford and win a Super Bowl. They knew what they were getting into.
The Lions took the chance to build up a younger core and now look in line to contend for a Super Bowl.
Win/Win, provided the Lions can keep things together.
The Lions used one of the 1st round picks to trade up for Jameson Williams, but they traded with the Vikings who took Lewis Cine. Facilitating/enabling a division rival to draft Lewis Cine means the Lions win this trade no matter else happens.
Its not like Jamo has been that much better of a player for them. Both barely see the field
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Well the rams got a Super Bowl ring out of it so they def won. I know Goff is playing great but the Super Bowl is the ultimate goal and the rams did it.
One was broken when he was traded and one wasn’t broken, The not broken one won a Super Bowl and has been broken ever since, The broken QB is no longer broken having found a new home to heal and grow with
Kind of a dumbass article. The Rams didn't make the trade for the future. They made the trade to get their ring immediately. And they got it. It doesn't matter what Goff turns into in Detroit, the Rams made the right move for their team. It's amazing that Goff has turned his career around, but it's not like anybody regrets what they did.
both overrated, however one has a ring and one doesn't. pretty clear who won that trade.
Where does this idea that Stafford no longer has it come from? He’s had a number of tipped ball picks and a few shitty picks but he isn’t drastically worse than he was a couple years ago - his team around him just sucks and him and Krupp’s chemistry has been a little off leading to some uncharacteristic drops.
Probably from the fact he is 35 and has constantly been dealing with injuries for the past 5+ years.
Ones old and got a ring and one is in his prime with no playoffs yet.
One got a Super Bowl, the other didn’t. Discussion done.
Goff and Lions need a SB ring to even the trade out.
I wish the article had touched on the draft picks the Lions got with the trade. Yeah ok compare the quarterbacks, but at least show the quality additions the Lions made over the three drafts.
One of the most win/win trades in nfl history
Goff has been a steady hand for the Lions since taking over, and while Stafford and the Rams got their ring, it’s been a train wreck since. Add in two first and a third and the Lions come out BIG winners.
a marriage of scheme and effective offensive line play never shows up in the stats but it is a winning formula, no matter who is throwing the ball, with certain exceptions at both boundaries of the bell curve.
I became a rams fan solely because of Goff, Gurley, Donald, Suh and McVay.
The last two-three years have been incredibly difficult.
Super Bowl. Start and finish there.
It’s literally the definition of great trade
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