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Bill Belichick has 300 career wins, good for 3rd of all time behind only George Halas (318) and Don Shula (328).

He has six Super Bowl rings - clearly more than any other coach in the SB era, but also tied with Halas and Lambeau for 2nd-most total Championships, behind only Paul Brown (7).

He has 9 Conference Championships, most ever by a wide margin.

He is 0.705 in the playoffs, 2nd-most of any active HC (Zac Taylor leads at 0.714).

He is tied with Shula for most total playoff appearances at 19 (Andy Reid will join them this year as the Pats will not be in this years playoffs and the Chiefs will)

He has coached 44 playoff games, six more than the 2nd-best (Andy Reid).

He has 31 playoff wins, 9 more than the 2nd-best (still Andy Reid).

It's perfectly fine to be frustrated with the path that the Patriots are on. But talk of firing Bill Belichick? That's like firing John Wooden or Nick Saban or Fielding Yost after 2 or 3 bad seasons. Not only is it disrespectful to them and everything they have done, but it's disrespectful to the entire history of the sport.

Get real.

Belichick will probably coach until he hits 329 wins for most ever.

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[–] eericcartman@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Bruce Bochy won 3 rings with the giants, the team went into a rut and fires Bochy, goes to Texas and wins another one. Would be cool to see if Bill can get one with another team and QB.

[–] DiddledByDad@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a bad take. Yes, he’s a HoF coach and arguably one of the goats. Admittedly I’ve paid 0 attention to the Pats this year but who knows, maybe it’s time for a change of scenery. Whatever is going on over there isn’t working, and bringing in the first new fresh set of eyes in 23 years probably sounds pretty enticing to ownership and fans alike.

Vibes of the late 80s Landry Cowboys

[–] cheeseburgerpillow@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Oh so we should sign Peyton Manning to a 6 year $500m extension right? Because he used to be good?

[–] JediAustin@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Move on too fast for most things.

Just not winning icons. I know this crosses sports, but Kobe Magic & West means something, Russell & Bird mean something, (same with Dirk & Duncan) I root for winning icons sticking with their franchise. If I owned a team, I'd deal with a few more losses for the lore.

We remember Randy Moss and Terrell Owens as great players, but we remember Larry Fitzgerald as being greatness to the Cardinals. While the top two were better talents, who meant more to the city?

Being so close, it would be special for him to ride out as a Patriot.

[–] jcfritz23@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Excuse me for not giving a fuck about the “history of American Football.” Lol.

[–] InsaneRanter@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way the pats are going, it might take him a decade to pass 329 total wins.

[–] constantlymat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus I would argue, treating him in exactly the same fashion Bill Belichick has treated players his entire career actually honors him the most.

Why handle the most ruthless executive of the past twenty years with kid's gloves? He didn't even make an exception for Tom Brady (to his own detriment as it turned out).

They shouldn't make an exception for him either.

[–] InsaneRanter@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. It'll show the organization is keeping the culture he's instilled.

[–] Sighlina@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

DO YOUR JOB!

[–] joelbartlett33@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Is this Matt Patricia’s burner account?

Giving us real ‘sit up straight and respect the process’ vibes.

Frankly, everyone associated with the Pats can burn in explosive hellfire for the atrocities to football he committed while coach us, and then coordinating their offense afterwards.

[–] macellis_nz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Kratos3770@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He sucks this year and last year, his ass is gone so get over it.

[–] Quexana@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

So was firing Tom Landry, but it happened.

[–] JobRich1277@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He sucks now

[–] InsaneRanter@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That doesn't guarantee he's still good.

The problem is the talent more than him, but the NFL wants to know if you'll help them win next week/year, not what you won previously.

[–] Fantastic_Emu_9570@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He needs an actual gm. He’s still a good head coach. He’s a terrible gm

[–] TornadoCouplet@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He's old and out of touch. He needs to retire.

[–] SleepIsWonderful@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Belichick has earned a very long leash but that doesn't mean people have to be blind to how shitty he has been as a coach and decision maker as of late. If his name wasn't Belichick he'd be on the mega hot seat.

[–] thy_armageddon@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Always fun to read a post that matches the Artie Sopranos meme.

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Belichick would have to coach another five years of 6-10 to hit another 28 wins. Nobody should be getting that long of a leash being that bad.

Especially when Belichick only has himself to blame for the situation he is in. Even if he is still a good coach he is a terrible GM at this point. If he cannot give up the GM role the Patriots have no path to success. And with no path to success they have no reason to keep him around.

[–] harknation@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The NFL is a “what have you done for me lately” league and lately all Bill’s been able to do is have, at best, middling seasons and draft badly

[–] SlapMeAGrilledCheese@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really expect a bunch of reactionary sports fans, most of whom are new fans, to care about the history of it?

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

lol OP is getting enraged and blocking anyone who disagrees with him, this is an all-timer.

[–] Mick_May@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Can you make a stat line for his career without Tom Brady? Just for reference.

[–] cochiseandcumbria@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This isn’t a league that pays for past performance.

[–] ricottaninja@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Sometime I wonder if OP is actively trying to get downvotes i swear he’s so aggressive in the comments every time. I even agree that Bill shouldn’t be fired but anyone who disagrees with you gets shouted at as if they insulted you or something.

[–] ThisPomelo9870@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Talk of firing bill Belichick is mean because he’s a sexy boi and I want him to hold me tight with his cutoff sweatshirt arms

I can have Lombardi now?

[–] DireBlue88@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Bill the coach is fine. It's just Bill the GM I think that needs changed.

[–] lizard_king_rebirth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Belichick will probably coach until he hits 329 wins for most ever.

I dunno if the Pats will keep him on for 7 more years.

[–] Hot_Injury7719@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Look at Tom Brady’s accomplishments and you’d say the same thing about him. And yet, he was shown the door because Darth Hoodie wouldn’t pay him. Bill Belichick would have gotten rid of Bill Belichick by now.

[–] Simmumah@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Except the NFL is a what have you done for me lately business. It's ruthless. If he doesn't want to get fired, quit. I do think Kraft will give him that option.

[–] Next_Level_V@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

2020 NFL Draft... Tom Brady was gone, The Patriots only had Jared Stidham as QB..

Burrow, Tua, Herbert already selected.. Jalen Hurts is one the board in the 2nd round..

The New England Patriots select Kyle Dugger..

Yea, this man needs to be fired. He actually thought he could win with NO QB? Maybe he didn't think Philly would take a QB since they had one.

I looked up WR for 2019 draft to see what analyst said.. They said N'Keal Harry can't get separation and Bill still took him lol.. They were saying take AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel or DK Metcalf..

So in 2019 he had the 13th pick in the 2nd round and AJ Brown and DK Metcalf was still there and this guy takes a CB that started 1 NFL game in 3 years lol.

Bill could have drafted AJ Brown and DK Metcalf back to back and had Brady could have played to 45.. My god this shit gets worse the further back you look..

[–] KIumpy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He's the head coach and the GM, and we have become a terribly untalented and undisciplined team. That falls on him. It's not that we're having a couple bad seasons, he's constantly been messing up for years, and now we're left in this mess.

[–] Sidthelid66@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

American football? We just call it football, back off Brussels.