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[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

that's almost as old as franchise cornerstone Terance Mann

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
  • Round 1
    • East
      • Celtics > Cavs, 4-2
      • Heat > Magic, 4-1
      • Bucks > Pacers, 4-1
      • 76ers > Knicks 4-2
    • West
      • TWolves > Pelicans, 4-3
      • Nuggets > Lakers, 4-1
      • Kings > Mavs, 4-2
      • Thunder > Suns, 4-3
  • Round 2 - Semifinals
    • East
      • Celtics > 76ers, 4-3
      • Bucks > Heat, 4-1
    • West
      • Twolves > Thunder, 4-1
      • Nuggets > Kings, 4-0
  • Conference Finals
    • Celtics > Bucks, 4-2
    • TWolves > Nuggets, 4-3
  • Finals
    • Celtics > TWolves, 4-1
 

I was messing around with some adjusted passer ratings a few weeks ago and a lot of the responses wanted Rushing contributions to be included. So I came up with a new method to do so, combining the adjusted Passer Rating (Passer Rating without Drops, Spikes, Throwaways) with Rushing production. That produced what I call QB CPR.

^(Full disclosure: I am a 49ers fan, but I did not do this to overhype Purdy. He was not atop this list when I started (Cousins, Goff, & Stroud were 1, 2, & 3, respectively. Ignore my flair and you will still see differences like Goff, Wilson, and Mahomes vs their traditional rankings.))

CPR

Adjusted Rating for Combined Passing & Rushing

Rank Player CPR GP C-Yd C-TD C-TO C-YPA C-TD% C-TO%
1 Dak Prescott 114.3 11 3,086 25 6 7.6 6.2% 1.5%
2 Brock Purdy 113.9 11 2,993 21 8 8.9 6.2% 2.4%
3 Russell Wilson 107.4 11 2,465 21 8 6.6 5.6% 2.2%
4 Josh Allen 107.2 12 3,556 33 16 7.2 6.7% 3.2%
5 C.J. Stroud 105.6 11 3,398 22 9 8.1 5.2% 2.1%
6 Jared Goff 105.4 11 3,098 20 11 7.2 4.6% 2.6%
7 Tua Tagovailoa 105.4 11 3,217 22 14 8.0 5.4% 3.5%
8 Kirk Cousins 104.5 8 2,356 18 9 7.2 5.5% 2.8%
9 Patrick Mahomes 103.9 11 3,222 21 11 6.9 4.5% 2.4%
10 Jalen Hurts 102.9 11 3,107 29 14 6.6 6.1% 3.0%
11 Justin Herbert 102.8 11 3,059 23 7 6.8 5.1% 1.6%
12 Lamar Jackson 98.5 12 3,192 18 11 7.2 4.0% 2.5%
13 Joe Burrow 96.6 10 2,397 15 7 6.1 3.8% 1.8%
14 Jordan Love 96.4 11 2,820 21 10 6.9 5.1% 2.4%
15 Sam Howell 95.8 12 3,561 21 15 6.8 4.0% 2.9%
16 Matthew Stafford 94.9 10 2,560 13 9 7.2 3.6% 2.5%
17 Trevor Lawrence 94.7 11 2,986 15 11 7.1 3.6% 2.6%
18 Baker Mayfield 94.3 11 2,741 17 9 6.5 4.0% 2.1%
19 Tommy DeVito 93.9 5 780 8 4 6.2 6.3% 3.2%
20 Geno Smith 92.8 11 2,670 12 10 6.9 3.1% 2.6%
21 Derek Carr 92.2 11 2,575 10 7 6.6 2.5% 1.8%
22 Justin Fields 92.2 8 1,987 13 10 6.6 4.3% 3.3%
23 Kyler Murray 92.1 3 805 5 2 6.7 4.1% 1.7%
24 Will Levis 90.6 5 1,054 6 3 6.3 3.6% 1.8%
25 Deshaun Watson 89.5 6 1,257 8 6 6.4 4.1% 3.0%
26 Gardner Minshew II 86.3 11 2,022 11 11 6.4 3.5% 3.5%
27 Kenny Pickett 86.1 11 2,051 7 4 5.8 2.0% 1.1%
28 Desmond Ridder 84.0 10 2,088 11 14 6.8 3.6% 4.6%
29 Joshua Dobbs 83.8 12 2,801 19 17 6.0 4.1% 3.6%
30 Jimmy Garoppolo 80.8 6 1,244 7 9 6.6 3.7% 4.8%
31 Bryce Young 80.8 10 2,038 9 12 5.4 2.4% 3.2%
32 Ryan Tannehill 80.4 6 1,168 3 6 6.9 1.8% 3.5%
33 Mac Jones 79.2 11 2,216 10 14 6.0 2.7% 3.8%
34 Aidan O'Connell 79.2 6 1,203 5 8 6.5 2.7% 4.3%
35 Daniel Jones 77.9 6 1,115 3 7 5.6 1.5% 3.5%
36 Zach Wilson 77.3 10 2,143 6 12 6.1 1.7% 3.4%
37 Tyson Bagent 76.7 5 968 5 8 5.8 3.0% 4.8%
38 Dorian Thompson-Robinson 61.6 5 494 1 4 4.1 0.8% 3.3%
39 P.J. Walker 49.7 6 704 1 7 5.7 0.8% 5.6%

GUIDE:

  • CPR = Adjusted Passer Rating + Rushing Production
    • Adjusted Passer Rating = Passer Rating after eliminating Drops, Throwaways, & Spikes
    • Combined with Rushing Yds, TDs, & Fumbles Lost
  • C-Yd = Combined Yards (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TD = Combined TDs (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TO = Combined Turnovers (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-YPA = Combined Yards Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TD% = Combined TD% Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TO% = Combined Turnover% Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)

CPR2

While doing all this I was looking for another metric to account for players that were doing the majority of the work. That is to say, not benefiting strictly of YAC. So I came up with another metric for this. CPR2 takes the original CPR metric and strips the YAC.

  • As an example, it is much harder to earn a perfect rating this way.
    • Keenan Allen is 1/1 for a 49 yd TD. Under both standard and my CPR Rating that would be a 158.3 Rating. However, with CPR2 that becomes a 142.2 Rating. In this rating, perfect means perfect. K.Allen would have had to throw 1/1 for 49 Air Yards on a TD.
  • Three players have been added to the list this week, having met the minimum requirements.
    • Kyler Murray, Tommy DeVito, Dorian Thompson-Robinson

Adjusted Rating for Combined Passing & Rushing, further adjusted away from YAC

Rank Player CPR2 AYPC YAC/Cmp CRAY% CYAC% wk10 Rank Rank Change
1 Dak Prescott 138.4 6.6 4.7 60.6% 39.4% 2 +1
2 Jalen Hurts 129.5 6.4 4.8 62.9% 37.1% 3 +1
3 C.J. Stroud 128.0 7.7 5.4 60.6% 39.4% 4 +1
4 Brock Purdy 126.3 7.2 6.2 55.4% 44.6% 1 -3
5 Josh Allen 124.3 5.8 5.1 58.0% 42.0% 7 +2
6 Kirk Cousins 121.1 6.2 4.6 57.9% 42.1% 6 --
7 Lamar Jackson 118.8 5.9 5.6 60.3% 39.7% 5 -2
8 Jared Goff 114.8 6.1 5.1 54.5% 45.5% 9 +1
9 Jordan Love 112.9 6.4 5.2 58.5% 41.5% 20 +11
10 Russell Wilson 112.5 4.7 5.4 52.4% 47.6% 12 +2
11 Justin Herbert 111.8 5.4 5.2 54.4% 45.6% 10 -1
12 Tua Tagovailoa 111.8 6.3 5.7 53.0% 47.0% 11 -1
13 Justin Fields 109.0 5.4 5.7 59.1% 40.9% 8 -5
14 Matthew Stafford 108.6 6.7 5.3 57.2% 42.8% 18 +4
15 Kyler Murray 108.5 5.9 5.0 58.9% 41.1% NR N/A
16 Joshua Dobbs 108.2 5.6 3.9 64.6% 35.4% 13 -3
17 Deshaun Watson 107.9 5.9 4.8 60.3% 39.7% 15 -2
18 Tommy DeVito 107.6 5.5 5.0 57.3% 42.7% NR N/A
19 Trevor Lawrence 107.2 5.8 5.2 56.6% 43.4% 14 -5
20 Desmond Ridder 104.9 6.5 4.5 62.5% 37.5% 16 -4
21 Baker Mayfield 104.0 5.5 5.0 55.2% 44.8% 19 -2
22 Will Levis 103.7 6.5 5.0 57.2% 42.8% 24 +2
23 Sam Howell 103.1 5.2 5.1 53.8% 46.2% 17 -6
24 Geno Smith 101.3 5.8 5.1 54.6% 45.4% 23 -1
25 Jimmy Garoppolo 100.8 6.7 4.3 62.4% 37.6% 21 -4
26 Derek Carr 99.7 5.5 4.8 54.1% 45.9% 22 -4
27 Patrick Mahomes 99.1 4.4 6.0 47.7% 52.3% 25 -2
28 Ryan Tannehill 94.7 6.6 4.9 58.9% 41.1% 26 -2
29 Daniel Jones 94.3 4.3 4.1 60.5% 39.5% 27 -2
30 Joe Burrow 93.3 4.4 5.1 48.3% 51.7% 28 -2
31 Gardner Minshew II 90.9 5.4 5.1 52.7% 47.3% 29 -2
32 Bryce Young 89.3 4.5 4.2 55.3% 44.7% 30 -2
33 Kenny Pickett 85.8 5.0 5.3 49.8% 50.2% 32 -1
34 Zach Wilson 84.9 5.1 5.1 54.9% 45.1% 31 -3
35 Aidan O'Connell 77.3 5.1 5.5 48.8% 51.2% 35 --
36 Dorian Thompson-Robinson 76.6 4.2 3.2 62.1% 37.9% NR N/A
37 Tyson Bagent 74.6 3.9 5.3 48.7% 51.3% 34 -3
38 Mac Jones 71.5 4.0 5.4 45.2% 54.8% 33 -5
39 P.J. Walker 43.2 5.1 7.4 43.5% 56.5% 36 -3

Guide:

  • CPR2 = Takes CPR and adjusts it toward the % of a player's total yards are not from YAC.
    • This is designed to give a more accurate picture of what a QB is doing (as both a runner & passer) separate from the receiver.
  • AYPC = Air Yards Per Completion
  • YAC/Cmp = Yards After Catch, per Completion
  • CRAY = % of Combined Yards from Rushing and Air Yards
  • CYAC = % of Combined Yards from Yards after the Catch

Stats vs Context

  • A stat like Passer Rating is just a stat. It doesn't give context. You still have to take the stat and apply context to it.
  • CPR is just a stat. You still have to apply context to it. But hopefully, this gives a more accurate piece of the picture than basic passer rating.

Common Q&A:

  • Does CPR2 favor QBs who have a very strong arm and launch a lot of deep balls?.
    • No. Arm Strength is a routine criticism of Purdy. But he can functionally throw an accurate deep ball without the greatest arm strength.
  • Does CPR2 favor QBs who launch a lot of deep balls?
    • Not necessarily. R.Tannehill leads the NFL in Intended Air Yards per attempt. Watson is 2nd, J.Love is 4th. But none of them rank that highly overall.
  • Does CPR2 hurt QBs who get a lot of YAC?
    • No. When you look at Stroud you can see he leads the NFL in Air Yards per completion. But he is also 7th in YAC/Cmp. Purdy is 2nd & 1st. Tua is 10th and 3rd. It is possible to get both Air Yards and YAC.
  • Why punish checkdowns?
    • the design is not to "punish" anyone. CPR2, specifically, is designed to credit those that are doing more outside of YAC, specifically including on the ground, which is the original criticism I was addressing.
  • Why strip away YAC:?
    • Stripping YAC shows more of the individual contribution, especially with the legs. Which is why you see good runners like Hurts and Lamar take a leap. Their traditional passer rating, invented before the age of mobile QBs, doesn't properly give them credit for this overall play.
[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He knows the deal. He has to wait another 13 years until he is the right age to run for president.

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The NBA specifically designed the schedule with "Open dates" for 2 unscheduled games.

They also should have done this later in the year.

They could have made it so at the start of the year no teams are scheduled for more than 3 games. Then, based on the tournament results that 4th matchup either happens in the tournament or on the "Open Date" later in the season.

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sodfather George Toma Sets the Record Straight on Superbowl Scandal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nP5r5xFnJs

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

“It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.”
~Sherlock Holmes

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I nominate Nick Bosa.

"Grass good, use grass."

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

head 2 head should not be the primary tiebreaker. No round robin system uses this. No one game in group play should mean more than any other.

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He's a 3&D wing. He'd fit on just about any roster.

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I still think they need 1 more player in the mix. In the playoffs teams are still going to double Embiid. Which puts the pressure on Maxey & Harris. Harris has a history of not showing up, and it's hard to expect Maxey to go crazy every game.

And Boston is still a bad matchup for them. Double Embiid, Jrue on Maxey. They can't depend on Harris & Melton to bail them out.

I think they need one more piece in there for when Harris or Maxey have an off scoring night.

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The Eagles. They are a great team, but have not played up to 10-1. Oh, you meant...

[–] SoKrat3s@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It's just as dumb to use h2h as the primary tiebreak. No round robin should run like that. All games are supposed to have equal value.

Take the World Cup for instance, if Ireland beats Turkey but the two end up tied in points, it doesn't default to their h2h, because the other games mattered just as much.

 

Adjusted Passer Rating = Traditional Passer Rating, removing Drops, Throwaways, & Spikes.

^(also note: I am using QB Rating & Passer Rating synonymously. This is not ESPN's QBR.)

Rank Player Adj QB Rat Trd. QB Rat Biggest Benefactors Player Diff
1 Brock Purdy 122.1 115.1 1 Jared Goff 11.7
2 Russell Wilson 114.9 104.3 2 Russell Wilson 10.6
3 Tua Tagovailoa 113.0 106.0 3 Deshaun Watson 9.7
4 Kirk Cousins 111.9 103.8 4 Jalen Hurts 9.4
5 Dak Prescott 111.4 104.0 4 Patrick Mahomes 9.4
6 C.J. Stroud 108.6 99.3 4 Will Levis 9.4
7 Jared Goff 107.8 96.1 7 C.J. Stroud 9.3
8 Lamar Jackson 107.8 100.1 8 Matthew Stafford 9.1
9 Josh Allen 106.0 97.6 9 Bryce Young 9.0
10 Justin Herbert 105.3 99.5 9 Zach Wilson 9.0
11 Jalen Hurts 104.2 94.8 11 Joe Burrow 8.8
12 Patrick Mahomes 103.2 93.8 12 Justin Fields 8.6
13 Justin Fields 101.9 93.3 13 Gardner Minshew II 8.5
14 Joe Burrow 99.8 91.0 14 Josh Allen 8.4
15 Will Levis 98.7 89.3 15 Kirk Cousins 8.1
16 Trevor Lawrence 98.0 92.2 15 Sam Howell 8.1
17 Derek Carr 97.8 89.8 17 Derek Carr 8.0
18 Geno Smith 97.7 89.7 17 Geno Smith 8.0
19 Baker Mayfield 97.5 91.5 19 Lamar Jackson 7.7
20 Sam Howell 96.7 88.6 20 Dak Prescott 7.4
21 Deshaun Watson 94.0 84.3 21 Jordan Love 7.1
22 Gardner Minshew II 92.3 83.8 22 Brock Purdy 7.0
23 Jordan Love 90.9 83.8 22 Tua Tagovailoa 7.0
24 Desmond Ridder 90.5 84.1 24 Ryan Tannehill 6.8
25 Matthew Stafford 89.9 80.8 25 Desmond Ridder 6.4
26 Joshua Dobbs 89.5 84.7 26 Kenny Pickett 6.2
27 Kenny Pickett 85.4 79.2 27 Daniel Jones 6.1
28 Mac Jones 85.3 80.2 28 Baker Mayfield 6.0
29 Bryce Young 83.7 74.7 29 Justin Herbert 5.8
30 Zach Wilson 82.8 73.8 29 Trevor Lawrence 5.8
31 Jimmy Garoppolo 82.4 78.1 29 Tyson Bagent 5.8
32 Ryan Tannehill 78.7 71.9 32 Mac Jones 5.1
33 Tyson Bagent 77.2 71.4 33 Joshua Dobbs 4.8
34 Daniel Jones 76.6 70.5 34 Jimmy Garoppolo 4.3
35 Aidan O'Connell 74.7 70.6 35 Aidan O'Connell 4.1
 

I was messing around with some adjusted passer ratings a few weeks ago and a lot of the responses wanted Rushing contributions to be included. So I came up with a new method to do so, combining the adjusted Passer Rating (Passer Rating without Drops, Spikes, Throwaways) with Rushing production. That produced what I call QB CPR.

^(Full disclosure: I am a 49ers fan, but I did not do this to overhype Purdy. He was not atop this list when I started (Cousins, Goff, & Stroud were 1, 2, & 3, respectively. Ignore my flair and you will still see differences like Goff, Wilson, and Mahomes vs their traditional rankings.))


CPR

Adjusted Rating for Combined Passing & Rushing

Rank Player CPR GP C-Yd C-TD C-TO C-YPA C-TD% C-TO%
1 Brock Purdy 117.3 10 2,783 20 7 9.1 6.6% 2.3%
2 Dak Prescott 110.6 10 2,745 21 6 7.4 5.7% 1.6%
3 Russell Wilson 107.4 10 2,297 19 7 6.8 5.6% 2.1%
4 Jared Goff 107.1 10 2,757 18 8 7.2 4.7% 2.1%
5 Tua Tagovailoa 106.4 10 2,973 21 11 8.0 5.6% 3.0%
6 Josh Allen 106.0 11 3,136 29 15 7.2 6.7% 3.4%
7 Justin Herbert 104.7 10 2,795 22 5 7.0 5.5% 1.2%
8 Kirk Cousins 104.5 8 2,356 18 9 7.2 5.5% 2.8%
9 C.J. Stroud 103.5 10 3,047 19 9 8.1 5.0% 2.4%
10 Jalen Hurts 102.3 10 2,842 24 12 6.7 5.6% 2.8%
11 Lamar Jackson 100.0 11 2,976 17 11 7.4 4.2% 2.7%
12 Patrick Mahomes 99.4 10 2,915 19 11 6.9 4.5% 2.6%
13 Joe Burrow 96.6 10 2,397 15 7 6.1 3.8% 1.8%
14 Sam Howell 95.7 11 3,247 20 14 6.8 4.2% 2.9%
15 Justin Fields 94.0 7 1,711 13 8 6.8 5.2% 3.2%
16 Baker Mayfield 93.7 10 2,528 15 7 6.5 3.8% 1.8%
17 Derek Carr 93.6 10 2,264 10 6 6.4 2.8% 1.7%
18 Geno Smith 93.4 10 2,469 12 9 6.9 3.4% 2.5%
19 Trevor Lawrence 93.2 10 2,622 13 10 6.9 3.4% 2.6%
20 Will Levis 91.7 4 872 6 3 6.4 4.4% 2.2%
21 Jordan Love 91.6 10 2,513 18 10 6.7 4.8% 2.7%
22 Deshaun Watson 89.5 6 1,257 8 6 6.4 4.1% 3.0%
23 Matthew Stafford 89.2 9 2,329 9 8 7.2 2.8% 2.5%
24 Gardner Minshew II 86.8 10 1,765 10 10 6.5 3.7% 3.7%
25 Joshua Dobbs 85.9 11 2,605 18 13 6.0 4.2% 3.0%
26 Desmond Ridder 84.8 9 1,890 10 12 6.8 3.6% 4.3%
27 Kenny Pickett 83.9 10 1,768 7 4 5.6 2.2% 1.3%
28 Mac Jones 82.0 10 2,127 10 12 6.1 2.9% 3.4%
29 Jimmy Garoppolo 80.8 6 1,244 7 9 6.6 3.7% 4.8%
30 Ryan Tannehill 80.4 6 1,168 3 6 6.9 1.8% 3.5%
31 Bryce Young 79.8 9 1,821 9 11 5.3 2.6% 3.2%
32 Daniel Jones 77.9 6 1,115 3 7 5.6 1.5% 3.5%
33 Tyson Bagent 76.7 5 968 5 8 5.8 3.0% 4.8%
34 Zach Wilson 76.3 10 2,143 6 12 6.1 1.7% 3.4%
35 Aidan O'Connell 70.7 5 955 4 8 6.3 2.6% 5.3%
36 P.J. Walker 52.3 5 649 1 6 5.9 0.9% 5.5%

GUIDE:

  • CPR = Adjusted Passer Rating + Rushing Production
    • Adjusted Passer Rating = Passer Rating after eliminating Drops, Throwaways, & Spikes
    • Combined with Rushing Yds, TDs, & Fumbles Lost
  • C-Yd = Combined Yards (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TD = Combined TDs (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TO = Combined Turnovers (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-YPA = Combined Yards Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TD% = Combined TD% Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TO% = Combined Turnover% Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)

CPR2

While doing all this I was looking for another metric to account for players that were doing the majority of the work. That is to say, not benefiting strictly of YAC. So I came up with another metric for this. CPR2 takes the original CPR metric and strips the YAC.

  • As an example, it is much harder to earn a perfect rating this way.
    • Keenan Allen is 1/1 for a 49 yd TD. Under both standard and my CPR Rating that would be a 158.3 Rating. However, with CPR2 that becomes a 142.2 Rating. In this rating, perfect means perfect. K.Allen would have had to throw 1/1 for 49 Air Yards on a TD.

Adjusted Rating for Combined Passing & Rushing, further adjusted away from YAC

Rank Player CPR2 AYPC YAC/Cmp CRAY% CYAC% wk10 Rank Rank Change
1 Brock Purdy 130.5 7.4 6.4 55.6% 44.4% 3 +2
2 Dak Prescott 129.6 6.2 4.8 58.6% 41.4% 1 -1
3 Jalen Hurts 128.1 6.4 4.7 62.6% 37.4% 2 -1
4 C.J. Stroud 127.0 8.0 5.3 61.4% 38.6% 6 +2
5 Lamar Jackson 122.8 6.2 5.5 61.4% 38.6% 7 +2
6 Kirk Cousins 121.1 6.2 4.6 57.9% 42.1% 8 +2
7 Josh Allen 118.8 5.6 5.2 56.0% 44.0% 5 -2
8 Justin Fields 116.7 6.2 5.6 62.1% 37.9% 16 +8
9 Jared Goff 116.3 6.0 5.1 54.3% 45.7% 10 +1
10 Justin Herbert 114.6 5.7 5.3 54.7% 45.3% 15 +5
11 Tua Tagovailoa 113.1 6.4 5.8 53.1% 46.9% 12 +1
12 Russell Wilson 110.9 4.7 5.4 51.6% 48.4% 11 -1
13 Joshua Dobbs 110.5 5.6 4.0 64.3% 35.7% 13 --
14 Trevor Lawrence 109.2 5.7 4.8 58.6% 41.4% 22 +8
15 Deshaun Watson 107.9 5.9 4.8 60.3% 39.7% 19 +4
16 Desmond Ridder 104.7 6.3 4.5 61.7% 38.3% 20 +4
17 Sam Howell 103.9 5.3 5.0 54.3% 45.7% 17 --
18 Matthew Stafford 103.8 7.0 5.3 58.2% 41.8% 14 -4
19 Baker Mayfield 102.9 5.5 5.0 54.9% 45.1% 18 -1
20 Jordan Love 101.8 6.0 5.5 55.6% 44.4% 21 +1
21 Jimmy Garoppolo 100.8 6.7 4.3 62.4% 37.6% 23 +2
22 Derek Carr 100.5 5.4 4.8 53.7% 46.3% 24 +2
23 Geno Smith 98.6 5.7 5.3 52.8% 47.2% 25 +2
24 Will Levis 98.1 6.2 5.6 53.4% 46.6% 32 +8
25 Patrick Mahomes 97.7 4.5 5.9 49.2% 50.8% 26 +1
26 Ryan Tannehill 94.7 6.6 4.9 58.9% 41.1% 27 +1
27 Daniel Jones 94.3 4.3 4.1 60.5% 39.5% 28 +1
28 Joe Burrow 93.3 4.4 5.1 48.3% 51.7% 31 +3
29 Gardner Minshew II 92.5 5.5 5.1 53.3% 46.7% 29 --
30 Bryce Young 87.1 4.3 4.2 54.6% 45.4% 30 --
31 Zach Wilson 84.1 5.2 5.1 55.1% 44.9% 33 +2
32 Kenny Pickett 81.9 4.8 5.3 48.8% 51.2% 34 +2
33 Mac Jones 77.3 4.3 5.3 47.2% 52.8% 35 +2
34 Tyson Bagent 74.6 3.9 5.3 48.7% 51.3% 36 +2
35 Aidan O'Connell 64.1 4.7 5.8 45.3% 54.7% 37 +2
36 P.J. Walker 44.7 5.1 7.8 42.7% 57.3% 38 +2

Guide:

  • CPR2 = Takes CPR and adjusts it toward the % of a player's total yards are not from YAC.
    • This is designed to give a more accurate picture of what a QB is doing (as both a runner & passer) separate from the receiver.
  • AYPC = Air Yards Per Completion
  • YAC/Cmp = Yards After Catch, per Completion
  • CRAY = % of Combined Yards from Rushing and Air Yards
  • CYAC = % of Combined Yards from Yards after the Catch

Stats vs Context

  • A stat like Passer Rating is just a stat. It doesn't give context. You still have to take the stat and apply context to it.
  • CPR is just a stat. You still have to apply context to it. But hopefully, this gives a more accurate piece of the picture than basic passer rating.

Common Q&A:

  • Does CPR2 favor QBs who have a very strong arm and launch a lot of deep balls?.
    • No. Arm Strength is a routine criticism of Purdy. But he can functionally throw an accurate deep ball without the greatest arm strength.
  • Does CPR2 favor QBs who launch a lot of deep balls?
    • Not necessarily. R.Tannehill leads the NFL in Intended Air Yards per attempt. Watson is 2nd, J.Love is 4th. But none of them rank that highly overall.
  • Does CPR2 hurt QBs who get a lot of YAC?
    • No. When you look at Stroud you can see he leads the NFL in Air Yards per completion. But he is also 6th in YAC/Cmp. Purdy is 2nd & 1st. Tua is 6th and 3rd. It is possible to get both Air Yards and YAC.
  • Why punish checkdowns?
    • the design is not to "punish" anyone. CPR2, specifically, is designed to credit those that are doing more outside of YAC, specifically including on the ground, which is the original criticism I was addressing.
  • Why strip away YAC:?
    • Stripping YAC shows more of the individual contribution, especially with the legs. Which is why you see good runners like Hurts and Lamar take a leap. Their traditional passer rating, invented before the age of mobile QBs, doesn't properly give them credit for this overall play.
 

I was messing around with some adjusted passer ratings last week and a lot of the responses wanted Rushing contributions to be included. So I came up with a new method to do so, combining the adjusted Passer Rating (Passer Rating without Drops, Spikes, Throwaways) with Rushing production. That produced what I call QB CPR.

^(Full disclosure: I am a 49ers fan, but I did not do this to overhype Purdy. He was not atop this list a week ago (Cousins, Goff, & Stroud were 1, 2, & 3, respectively. Ignore my flair and you will still see differences like Goff, Wilson, and Mahomes vs their traditional rankings.))

CPR

Adjusted Rating for Combined Passing & Rushing

Rank Player CPR C-Yd C-TD C-TO C-YPA C-TD% C-TO%
1 Brock Purdy 112.5 2436 17 7 8.8 6.2% 2.5%
2 Dak Prescott 112.4 2550 19 6 7.7 5.7% 1.8%
3 Jared Goff 110.0 2518 16 5 7.3 4.6% 1.4%
4 Tua Tagovailoa 108.4 2642 19 9 8.0 5.7% 2.7%
5 Russell Wilson 107.7 2037 18 7 6.7 6.0% 2.3%
6 Josh Allen 106.4 2846 26 14 7.2 6.5% 3.5%
7 Justin Herbert 105.3 2462 20 5 6.9 5.6% 1.4%
8 C.J. Stroud 105.1 2712 17 6 8.0 5.0% 1.8%
9 Kirk Cousins 104.5 2356 18 9 7.2 5.5% 2.8%
10 Jalen Hurts 103.9 2663 22 11 6.8 5.6% 2.8%
11 Patrick Mahomes 103.3 2700 17 10 7.2 4.5% 2.7%
12 Anthony Richardson 102.3 713 7 2 6.5 6.4% 1.8%
13 Tyrod Taylor 99.0 677 2 0 6.2 1.8% 0.0%
14 Sam Howell 97.8 2957 18 11 6.9 4.2% 2.6%
15 Lamar Jackson 97.2 2658 15 11 7.2 4.1% 3.0%
16 Baker Mayfield 97.1 2277 14 5 6.6 4.1% 1.5%
17 Joe Burrow 95.3 2289 14 7 6.1 3.7% 1.9%
18 Justin Fields 93.7 1438 12 8 6.9 5.7% 3.8%
19 Derek Carr 93.0 2264 10 6 6.4 2.8% 1.7%
20 Matthew Stafford 91.7 2138 8 7 7.3 2.7% 2.4%
21 Geno Smith 91.5 2237 11 9 6.9 3.4% 2.8%
22 Trevor Lawrence 88.4 2343 9 10 6.8 2.6% 2.9%
23 Jordan Love 87.9 2191 16 10 6.6 4.8% 3.0%
24 Deshaun Watson 87.3 1257 8 6 6.4 4.1% 3.0%
25 Gardner Minshew II 86.1 1765 10 10 6.5 3.7% 3.7%
26 Joshua Dobbs 86.0 2363 16 11 6.0 4.1% 2.8%
27 Kenny Pickett 85.9 1653 7 4 5.8 2.5% 1.4%
28 Desmond Ridder 84.8 1890 10 12 6.8 3.6% 4.3%
29 Will Levis 84.2 712 4 2 6.2 3.5% 1.7%
30 Bryce Young 83.3 1695 8 9 5.5 2.6% 2.9%
31 Mac Jones 81.7 2127 10 12 6.1 2.9% 3.4%
32 Jimmy Garoppolo 80.8 1244 7 9 6.6 3.7% 4.8%
33 Ryan Tannehill 80.4 1168 3 6 6.9 1.8% 3.5%
34 Daniel Jones 77.9 1115 3 7 5.6 1.5% 3.5%
35 Tyson Bagent 76.7 968 5 8 5.8 3.0% 4.8%
36 Zach Wilson 76.3 2047 5 11 6.1 1.5% 3.3%
37 Aidan O'Connell 74.5 681 3 5 6.2 2.8% 4.6%
38 P.J. Walker 52.3 649 1 6 5.9 0.9% 5.5%

GUIDE:

  • CPR = Adjusted Passer Rating + Rushing Production
    • Adjusted Passer Rating = Passer Rating after eliminating Drops, Throwaways, & Spikes
    • Combined with Rushing Yds, TDs, & Fumbles Lost
  • C-Yd = Combined Yards (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TD = Combined TDs (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TO = Combined Turnovers (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-YPA = Combined Yards Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TD% = Combined TD% Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)
  • C-TO% = Combined Turnover% Per Attempt (Rushing + Passing)

CPR2

While doing all this I was looking for another metric to account for players that were doing the majority of the work. That is to say, not benefiting strictly of YAC. So I came up with another metric for this. CPR2 takes the original CPR metric and strips the YAC.

  • As an example, it is much harder to earn a perfect rating this way.
    • Keenan Allen is 1/1 for a 49 yd TD. Under both standard and my CPR Rating that would be a 158.3 Rating. However, with CPR2 that becomes a 142.2 Rating. In this rating, perfect means perfect. K.Allen would have had to throw 1/1 for 49 Air Yards on a TD.

Here you will also see the biggest boosts from the high-volume rushers like Hurts and Lamar.

Adjusted Rating for Combined Passing & Rushing, further adjusted away from YAC

Rank Player CPR2 AYPC YAC/Cmp CRAY% CYAC% Adj OnTrg%
1 Dak Prescott 130.7 6.4 5.0 58.1% 41.9% 79.5%
2 Jalen Hurts 129.2 6.4 4.8 62.2% 37.8% 84.4%
3 Brock Purdy 127.0 7.4 6.2 56.4% 43.6% 69.4%
4 Tyrod Taylor 125.8 5.8 4.3 63.5% 36.5% 81.8%
5 Josh Allen 125.7 5.8 4.7 59.1% 40.9% 85.0%
6 C.J. Stroud 122.8 7.6 5.8 58.4% 41.6% 65.4%
7 Lamar Jackson 121.6 6.1 5.1 62.5% 37.5% 72.2%
8 Kirk Cousins 121.1 6.2 4.6 57.9% 42.1% 86.8%
9 Anthony Richardson 119.4 5.6 5.9 58.3% 41.7% 80.0%
10 Jared Goff 118.1 6.0 5.2 53.7% 46.3% 78.4%
11 Russell Wilson 117.1 4.9 5.2 54.3% 45.7% 81.2%
12 Tua Tagovailoa 115.0 6.4 5.8 53.0% 47.0% 83.2%
13 Joshua Dobbs 111.2 5.5 4.0 64.7% 35.3% 64.0%
14 Matthew Stafford 111.2 7.4 5.1 60.6% 39.4% 78.5%
15 Justin Herbert 110.1 5.4 5.4 52.3% 47.7% 70.6%
16 Justin Fields 108.9 6.0 6.0 58.1% 41.9% 76.7%
17 Sam Howell 108.2 5.5 5.0 55.3% 44.7% 71.0%
18 Baker Mayfield 107.5 5.7 5.2 55.4% 44.6% 71.2%
19 Deshaun Watson 105.6 5.9 4.7 60.5% 39.5% 61.1%
20 Desmond Ridder 104.7 6.3 4.5 61.7% 38.3% 76.8%
21 Jordan Love 103.5 6.3 5.1 58.9% 41.1% 67.7%
22 Trevor Lawrence 101.2 5.5 5.0 57.2% 42.8% 75.4%
23 Jimmy Garoppolo 100.8 6.7 4.3 62.4% 37.6% 73.6%
24 Derek Carr 99.5 5.4 4.8 53.5% 46.5% 73.7%
25 Geno Smith 99.3 5.9 5.2 54.2% 45.8% 61.5%
26 Patrick Mahomes 98.7 4.5 6.2 47.8% 52.2% 88.0%
27 Ryan Tannehill 94.7 6.6 4.9 58.9% 41.1% 75.7%
28 Daniel Jones 94.3 4.3 4.1 60.5% 39.5% 81.6%
29 Gardner Minshew II 91.9 5.5 5.0 53.4% 46.6% 67.9%
30 Bryce Young 91.3 4.4 4.2 54.8% 45.2% 78.4%
31 Joe Burrow 86.6 4.1 5.4 45.4% 54.6% 70.5%
32 Will Levis 85.6 5.8 5.8 50.8% 49.2% 42.0%
33 Zach Wilson 84.9 5.2 5.0 55.7% 44.3% 69.7%
34 Kenny Pickett 84.0 5.0 5.5 48.9% 51.1% 66.7%
35 Mac Jones 77.3 4.3 5.3 47.3% 52.7% 72.8%
36 Tyson Bagent 74.6 3.9 5.3 48.7% 51.3% 80.3%
37 Aidan O'Connell 67.8 4.6 5.6 45.5% 54.5% 53.5%
38 P.J. Walker 44.7 5.1 7.8 42.7% 57.3% 60.7%

Guide:

  • CPR2 = Takes CPR and adjusts it toward the % of a player's total yards are not from YAC.
    • This is designed to give a more accurate picture of what a QB is doing (as both a runner & passer) separate from the receiver.
  • AYPC = Air Yards Per Completion
  • YAC/Cmp = Yards After Catch, per Completion
  • CRAY = % of Yards from Combined Rushing and Air Yards
  • Adj OnTrg% = % of Passes on Target, per Adjusted Attempt (no drops, spikes, throwaways)
 

CPR2 = Combined (Adjusted) Passer+Rusher Rating

Player CPR2 C-Yd C-TD C-TO C-YPA C-TD% C-TO%
>!Jared Goff!< 110.93 2,192 14 5 7.28 4.7% 1.7%
>!C.J. Stroud!< 109.52 2,656 24 11 7.22 6.5% 3.0%
>!Josh Allen!< 109.70 2,348 15 3 7.85 5.0% 1.0%
>!T.Tagovailoa!< 107.35 2,642 19 9 7.98 5.7% 2.7%
>!D.Prescott!< 107.28 2,129 14 5 7.24 4.8% 1.7%
>!R.Wilson!< 105.33 1,814 16 7 6.87 6.1% 2.7%
>!J.Herbert!< 104.94 2,124 16 4 6.76 5.1% 1.3%
>!Brock Purdy!< 104.68 2,140 14 7 8.56 5.6% 2.8%
>!Jalen Hurts!< 104.41 2,663 22 11 6.78 5.6% 2.8%
>!P.Mahomes!< 103.04 2,700 17 10 7.18 4.5% 2.7%
>!Joe Burrow!< 99.66 1,922 12 5 5.77 3.6% 1.5%
>!L.Jackson!< 95.19 2,394 14 9 7.10 4.2% 2.7%
>!T.Lawrence!< 93.60 2,151 9 7 6.87 2.9% 2.2%

CPR3 ^((below)) Takes the above rating and adjusts it for the QB's% of contribution (CRAY)

Player CPR3 AYPC YAC/Cmp CRAY% CYAC% OnTrg%
>!Josh Allen!< 119.9 7.2 5.9 56.2% 43.8% 67.7%
>!Jalen Hurts!< 119.9 6.4 4.8 62.2% 37.8% 76.1%
>!C.J. Stroud!< 113.3 5.8 4.7 59.3% 40.7% 77.8%
>!Jared Goff!< 111.5 5.9 5.0 54.7% 45.3% 77.8%
>!L.Jackson!< 110.2 5.9 4.9 63.2% 36.8% 73.9%
>!D.Prescott!< 110.1 5.8 5.0 56.0% 44.0% 83.4%
>!Brock Purdy!< 108.2 7.2 6.1 56.4% 43.6% 72.8%
>!R.Wilson!< 106.1 5.2 5.3 55.1% 44.9% 70.4%
>!T.Tagovailoa!< 103.9 6.4 5.8 53.0% 47.0% 77.3%
>!J.Herbert!< 100.1 5.4 5.3 52.4% 47.6% 75.9%
>!T.Lawrence!< 90.2 5.6 4.8 58.3% 41.7% 78.2%
>!P.Mahomes!< 88.5 4.5 6.2 47.8% 52.2% 78.7%
>!Joe Burrow!< 84.2 4.1 4.9 47.2% 52.8% 73.1%

I did an exercise earlier, but people wanted Rushing Production included. I went back to the drawing board and ran the numbers. This is an imperfect exercise, and is merely for fun. Enjoy!

Guide

  • CPR2 = Combined Adjusted Passer Rating with Rushing Stats included.
    • Adjusted Passer Rating ignores drops, spikes, throwaways, and LOS knockdowns
  • CTD = Combined TDs
  • CTO = Combined Turnovers (INT + Fumb Lost)
  • CYPA = Combined Yards Per Attempt
  • CTD% = Combined TD%
  • CTO% = Combined Turnover% (INT + Fumb Lost)

  • CPR3 = Combined Adjusted Passer Rating, in relation to CRAY% (see below)
  • AYPC = Air Yards Per Completion
  • YAC/Cmp = Yards After Catch Per Completion
  • CRAY% = % of Yards that come from Air Yards & Rush Yards (aka, only from the QB himself)
  • CYAC% = % of Total Yards that come from YAC (or other players)
  • OnTrg% = % of Passes On Target to intended receiver
 

From a blind resume of QBs who is your pick for MVP?

POS Player Adj QB Rat QB Rat TD% INT% YPA AY/Cmp YAC/Cmp %AirY %YAC OnTgt% BadThr%
QB1 >!C.J. Stroud!< 117.82 102.9 5.0% 0.4% 8.1 7.2 5.9 54.7% 45.3% 67.7% 19.7%
QB2 >!R.Wilson!< 117.61 101.7 6.9% 1.7% 6.9 5.2 5.3 49.5% 50.5% 70.4% 13.3%
QB3 >!Bock Purdy!< 116.63 105.4 5.4% 2.2% 9.1 7.2 6.1 54.2% 45.8% 72.8% 17.0%
QB4 >!T.Tagovailoa!< 113.23 106.4 6.2% 2.3% 8.5 6.4 5.8 52.4% 47.6% 77.3% 12.0%
QB5 >!Jared Goff!< 112.65 96.4 4.1% 1.7% 7.4 5.9 5.0 54.4% 45.6% 77.8% 13.3%
QB6 >!D.Prescott!< 110.50 100.7 4.9% 1.9% 7.6 5.8 5.0 53.4% 46.6% 83.4% 10.9%
QB7 >!Josh Allen!< 109.92 99.6 5.6% 2.8% 7.5 5.8 4.7 55.4% 44.6% 77.8% 13.0%
QB8 >!Jalen Hurts!< 109.29 97 4.9% 2.6% 7.7 6.4 4.8 57.1% 42.9% 76.1% 11.5%
QB9 >!P.Mahomes!< 108.81 96.7 5.1% 2.4% 7.3 4.5 6.2 42.3% 57.7% 78.7% 11.1%
QB10 >!L.Jackson!< 108.36 100.8 3.6% 1.2% 7.7 5.9 4.9 54.9% 45.1% 73.9% 14.2%
QB11 >!J.Herbert!< 107.82 97.3 4.6% 1.4% 7.2 5.4 5.3 50.1% 49.9% 75.9% 15.2%
QB12 >!T.Lawrence!< 105.04 93.6 3.3% 1.5% 7.1 5.6 4.8 53.7% 46.3% 78.2% 15.5%

Keep in mind, this is just for fun.
Obviously stats in a vacuum are not a be-all, end-all.
And no rushing contributions are counted, which would also alter the results.

Guide:

  • Adj QB Rat = QB Rating taking away Spikes, Throwaways, Drops, or passes knocked down at the LOS.
  • AY/Cmp = Air Yards Per Completion
  • YAC/Cmp = YAC Per Completion
  • %AirY = Percentage of Passing Yards from Air Yards
  • %YAC = Percentage of Passing Yards from YAC
  • OnTgt% = On Target% Per Attempt, minus Spikes & Throwaways
  • BadThr% = Bad Throw% Per Attempt, minus Spikes & Throwaways

 

The 76ers spent months seeking at least 2 FRPs and a swap for Harden. Everyone claimed it was too much to ask for Harden.

Now the 76ers got 2 FRPs and a swap for Harden. Plus three role players in Batum, Covington, and a young KJ Martin. They also got PJ Tucker out of their starting lineup while removing his contract from their books.

It seems like just because Philly didn't land T.Mann (who they were never going to keep) or N.Powell (whose contract they didn't want) that everyone wants to call them losers, despite getting almost exactly what they asked for.

They got into exactly the position they wanted to be in. Either they can immediately (or as soon as the trade restriction passes) turn around and make another trade. Or they can wait until the summer where they will have a massive amount of cap space to either make moves in free agency or make a trade into that open cap space.

Given that for months everyone said 2 FRPs and a swap was too much for Harden I don't understand the sudden shift in claims that they didn't get enough.

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