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[–] form_an_opinion@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I mean, being third fiddle to the Chiefs and Bengals isn't necessarily a failure, especially for the post Jim Kelly Bills. It's like the early Favre Packers teams, usually stuck behind Frisco and Dallas. They'll probably have a break through eventually, I don't think coaching is the issue.

[–] ozairh18@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Unless the Bills turn it around, McDermott should be fired in the offseason

[–] Material-Race-5107@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

McDermott is far from perfect. But look no further than my Bears to know you can do FAR worse at head coach. They are having 1 awful season by their expectations after being completely uprooted by injuries on both sides of the ball. The Dorsey firing feels like a scapegoat and a bit premature, but I don’t think I can look at McDermotts entire tenure with the Bills and make the argument that he deserves to be fired into the sun right now.

[–] krangoken2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I guess we'll all find out together on Sunday

[–] kit_mitts@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

ITT: people who don't watch the Bills every week using surface-level analysis to convince us to ignore what we can see with our own eyes.

[–] cabinet4perx@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If they play good, Josh Allen is elite. If Allen plays like shit fire the entire staff.

I hope some of the simps begin to take the madden curse serious. Unless you are Tom Brady do not be on the cover because you will have a terrible season or in the case of Peterson you will be exposed as a child abuser

[–] PeanutButterOtter@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The Bills #1 problem is Josh Allen. He was a turnover machine in college. He's been a turnover machine in the NFL.

[–] Ancient_Wisdom_Yall@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

There's no doubt that the Bills are underperforming. Not sure if firing Ken Dorsey is going to fix their problems. Seems like more of a scapegoat to me.

[–] Pokeman49@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I don’t understand the Cook and Kincaid picks. Was there really a reason to believe these prospects could move the needle in the middle of their championship window?

[–] Flibbityfloydz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Seems like yesterday he was universally praised by the Bills fandom and basically the whole NFL. Life comes at you fast.

[–] 1000kaiju@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Let James Cook

[–] fuckthemoddsofreddit@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

McDermott is never going to lead the bills to a super bowl. He makes terrible decisions in close games under pressure.

He's a good coach and he's also not the right one to get the bills over the top.

The sooner they accept this and move on the better off they will be.

[–] caw1218@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

“What surprised me most was head coach and defensive playcaller McDermott calling for an all-out blitz on third and 10 when the Broncos were on the 45-yard line, well out of field goal range.

That was purely asinine coaching.”

This is the same call he made against the bengals after Josh brought the score to 24-18. 1st and 10 after the TD and 2pt and McDermott calls a cover 0 all out blitz giving up a 32 yard pass to Boyd all but ending the chance to get the ball back.

McDermott didn’t even learn from the failure the week before. The team has so many injuries to the secondary, so naturally as a good coach you would put them in man coverage with no safety help in critical parts of the game…

As it has been said “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”

[–] TheGarbageStore@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The article thinks the 2020 Bills were magical, and they were really hecking good, but the 2021 Bills were the team that really made me believe that the curse was over and the team was really going to win the Super Bowl when Buffalo finally pulled ahead with thirteen seconds left.

I'll never forget that moment, if only for how cruelly it was ripped away.

[–] the-kza@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Mr Bills Coach

[–] Arkhangelzk@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

People are so reactionary. The bills used to be a complete joke. Those fans would’ve killed for the run of the last few years.

[–] BajaBlastMtDew@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Have said for a few years he's basically a slightly more successful Zimmer who also overstayed his welcome. Bills are stuck in the same spot of being usually better than average but defensive coach holding team back overall

[–] honus-wagner-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I remember when Ken Dorsey was our qb for a few games.

[–] Howie-Dowin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It's very interesting watching the entire football brain trust try to dissect exactly why we suck. It's Dorsey! It's JA! It's McDermott!

[–] CalImeIshmaeI@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As a long, long time Bills fan, please do not fire McDermott.

Yes, this is not our year, we have issues, there is work to do this offseason schematically and on the roster.

But does no one remember the carousel of coaches this franchise has endured? McDermott is our second longest tenured coach. He has the best win% of any coach in franchise history. He consistently has put a competitive playoff team together despite many roster and injury woes.

Since 1998 we’ve had 9 different head coaches and bounced around being .500 for two decades. We are not a “rebuild” team right now. Firing McD leaves us with no HC, OC, or DC going into the offseason. And for what? What do we gain from that?

This team has performed at a Super Bowl caliber with McD at the helm. This year we are not, but we know what the potential is and what he can do with a healthy roster.

Can we please not be reactionary for once, go into the offseason, get an OC that schemes to Allen’s strength, add some WR depth, and figure out a way to keep our defense healthy?

[–] imsabbath84@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know what none of those coaches had? a franchise QB. How much does mcdermott really mean to the success of the team, versus how much allen means to the success of the team? Are you sure mcdermott isn't just "along for the ride" with allen?

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[–] iluvmahomes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Was Dorsey a Sharp Football Analytics customer?

[–] romayyne@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The Bills are undoubtedly the most underachieving franchise

[–] AyepuOnyu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To all the Bills fans screaming for McD to be fired: Be careful what you wish for.

This season is disappointing so far but not over. He's the best coach we've had since Levy. I've sat through the years of Mularky, Jauron, Marron, Rex, etc.

Head coaching hires are as much of a crap shoot as drafting a QB. Yea we could hit a home run, or we could end up with the next Adam Gase...

Yes he has faults, most coaches do. But he's made the playoffs all but one year, won several playoff games, and has the defense still playing well despite losing our best player at each level of the defense.

Remember when Andy Reid used to be a good coach that could never win it all because of his game management skills? Remember when fans wanted Daboll gone because he wasn't perfect? Remember after opening week last year against the Rams we knew Dorsey was the guy?

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[–] squashthejosh@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Stop shitting on us man lol

[–] notPatrickClaybon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This sub is loving bills drama right now

[–] Skyline_BNR34@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Anyone that wants or expects McDermott to get fired is stupid.

Any Bills fan that watched the Drought should be ashamed they even want McD gone after he literally ended the drought with Tyrod Taylor when they were trying to get a higher draft pick.

McD is a fine coach. This team just needs another Daboll caliber OC for Allen and the offense.

[–] RandomPersonNvm@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm curious as to how this team would look with an offensive-minded head coach.

[–] peezy5@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is the most accurate account of what has happened here in Buffalo over the last several years that you will find. McDermott sucks.

[–] dawgz525@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Seems....reactionary?

[–] Nbc7_x@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] shadowseeker3658@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure the problem is Josh Allen. We can trade them an adult QB for him straight up.

[–] GlowInTheDarkNinjas@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah fire McD and release Allen, I'm sure there's nobody else in the AFCE that could use them........

[–] awolflikeme@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think he's done a good job honestly...like he can't stop people from making mistakes.

[–] Johnnygunnz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

McDermott really needs to stop turning the ball over, guys.

[–] Slylok@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm sure other Bills fans will go on and on about how good the defense is when in reality they never make key stops , can't get off the field and can't generate turnovers.

And then they'll say " but but injuries " and to that I say.. I'm sorry but if Sean needs an All Pro Line , All Pro Linebackers , All Pro Secondary for his scheme to work then he is not a good coach and his soft zone scheme is terrible ( and it is ).

He was also the one meddling with the offense trying to turn it into something it isn't. The Bills have no explosive plays this year unlike years prior.

His time should've been over at the end of last year.

[–] halfdecenttakes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What are the chances Bill ends up on the Bills?

The fit is kind of there.

[–] uhaul26@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Ken should have fired Sean first.

[–] Revolutionary-Fig487@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] JasonPlattMusic34@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I seem to recall getting downvoted to hell and roasted over the coals a few weeks ago when I suggested McDermott and Belichick aren’t great coaches in the AFC East anymore (obviously Belichick is the all time GOAT but even GOATS pass their prime), but now the Pats look lifeless and the Bills look like a total tire fire. Idk what happened to McDermott but it’s been a slow climb downhill ever since 2020.

[–] lemonpepperlarry@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Well he’s out of scape goats now so it’s one step closer

[–] jk01@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What's up with all the random opinion pieces this week from nobodies? Thought this kind of shit wasn't allowed.

[–] elroddo74@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

No running game and a Qb who leads the Nfl in turnovers is the biggest issue. Josh Allen has to do too much, and it leads to turnovers. He needs help, and other than Diggs he isn't getting it.

[–] pelicanpoems@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Brett Kollman squared the curse with that video

[–] imrickjamesbioch@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I didn’t know the OC was in charge of special teams and had 12 men on the field after a time out… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] imsabbath84@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didnt read the whole article, but he makes it sound like McDermott wanting to run the ball better, is a terrible thing. He didnt mention how the scoring drives the Bills had, were as a result of the running game, and Dorseys refusal to stick with the running game(that was working) is part of the reason he lost his job.

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[–] RiveryJerald@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I’m so fucking sick of watching the offense scheme utterly fail to catch opposing defenses off guard, Josh Allen throw idiotic “what the fuck are you thinking?” picks and the receivers dropping catches that hit them in the hands, just for emotional and erratic fans to scream about how Sean McDermott is the problem because “he’s the head coach, so he’s responsible.”

The man coached a defense, down 6 full-time starters, into holding the Bengals offense to 3 points in the second half of the game last week.

Is he perfect? No, but for the love of fucking god, everyone’s common sense has flown the fucking coop.

[–] Shiddy_Wiki@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Excuse me; that's Bill Burr. I don't know who this McDermott person you're talking about is, but I know Bill Burr when I see him. I think he does a great job coaching Chris Pratt.

[–] klein_four_group@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

But it did solve Sean McDermott's #1 problem: sacrificing a fall guy to keep his job for a bit longer.

[–] FiveStringHoss@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've read this article twice now, and the premise is just so unbelievably flawed. Sean McDermott is on record in press conferences that he wants the team to have the THREAT to run the ball and for opposing defenses to RESPECT that.

This article shouldn't be taken seriously, as its whole premise is based around "reading the tea leaves" of McDermott press conferences while leaving out DIRECT QUOTES that contradict the thesis of this article.

McDermott is the guy who hired Daboll, a coach who had many more failures than success in the NFL, and put him in a position to succeed. The pass-first, run-second mentality IS McDermott.

There's a reason you don't see notable beat reporters, who actually cover this team every day, engaging in this kind of drive-by punditry.

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