Only as a last resort and everything else has been tried.
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If just my state left, and I could leave to another state, that would be pretty good. Two Republican senators gone, roughly 15 net house reps gone, and an influx of dem refugees like me into neighboring states.
Texas could legit try to make a go of it as an independent nation. It would be a disaster for my family though.
No. We'd be overrun by federal troops and decimated within a week. If we could secede peacefully? We (Wisconsin) would probably need an alliance with Minnesota and Michigan to survive.
Do states even have a legal way to secede?
No but there's no law against expelling a state from the union. Kind of a reverse secession if you can piss trump off enough for him to actually do it (no law saying that only Congress can expel them, so it would go to the courts).
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A bulkanized US would certainly be good for the planet, assuming it survived the preliminary civil wars as nation state boundaries are created and alliances made with Canada and Mexico. Who gains control of all the nukes would be a big question.
Personally, absolutely. California subsidizes so many of the red states in this country, and it sucks, because we donβt get the representation we should. We have 10% of the population, but only get 2% of the representation in the Senate.
That being said, I am completely aware that this is Putinβs goal, and that is why there is a lot of discussion online from Russian bot accounts about this.
It sucks when your goals align with Putinβs, because he is such a monster.
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While many of my family members have served in the past and do now, the US is not the end all, be all.
I pledge allegiance to a country without borders, Without Politicians
We're leaving the east coast? I think they deserve a path too
Yes
No, because it would lead to civil war. Do I wish it could happen? Yes. But is it realistic? No.
Ah, but Trump does not have the balls, brains, or moral integrity of Abraham Lincoln.
So, we got that going for us.
He doesn't need to imo, these things have plenty of inertia right now. It wouldn't take a lot to get Americans fighting even harder against eachother than we are now even.
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If we could do it in a peaceful and democratic way that doesnβt lead to an immediate second civil war, yeah, Iβd probably vote for it. It seems to have worked out well enough for Czechia and Slovakia.
I don't support it, only because my state wouldn't be seperating to join the "good" side
No.
yeah if we figure out a way to not starve
I'm cool wit dat