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First RCS now this, today has been wild

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[–] donuts@kbin.social 491 points 1 year ago (20 children)

I'm a Linux guy and I don't really care about Windows, but I'm glad to see this happening and every day I thank Europe for being the main entity fighting for regulation of big tech monopolies, because America is really failing.

[–] howler@lemmy.world 148 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its nuts that during the Obama admin, all anyone cared about was the threat of zero privacy. Now everyone in the US has surrendered to it, because our politicians have sold our digital privacy rights to the tech companies.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 102 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

If we had actual IT giants in Europe, this would look very different.

I've seen how the car industry in Germany only got a slap on the wrist because of Dieselgate and even got the chance to send out advertisement payed by the government.

I feel like the only reason stuff like this gets pushed so hard is because we try to slow down the current IT giants until we get our shit together.

I'm glad that we do it, but i wouldn't say we are better than anyone else.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the honest take, a lot of people get caught up in the idea that if an organization does something that aligns with them, they are good or doing it for the same reasons.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

There is a lot of protectionism at the heart of the EU. They are quite happy to heavily regulate Big Tech when it’s not based in their own market. Unfortunately they don’t have quite the same passion for nurturing the European tech industry as much as stifling the foreign ones.

They are it purely fighting these fights for the greater good, or they wouldn’t also be pushing things like the recent browser certificate debacle.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

EU is very much a mixed bag. On the one hand, they do this, on the other hand, they tried to ban P2P encryption and microtargetted religious and elderly in resisting countries, feeding them the classic "it's for the children's safety" lies.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

America is getting paid to do it.
Maybe the FCC is still resisting for now.

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 228 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)

ABOUT FUCKING TIME. Take edge and shove it so far up your data tracking sphincter of a face hole.

Can we please get these laws on a global level.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 63 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Well they'll probably reinstall it with every update anyway.

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[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 152 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why yes Microsoft, I am totally a European in Europe right now...

[–] radix@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

VPN to Sweden, update Windows to the EEA version, profit?

I'm not holding my breath, but we can hope.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 94 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It 's wild to think that some people might VPN to the EU for basic rights.

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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 131 points 1 year ago (47 children)

Hey, 'Muricans, how come we need to pressure every company into compliance for you?

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Do you really think any average citizen has any say in this whatsoever?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes. You're a democracy, right? Right?

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On paper yes. In reality...

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 116 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Thank you Europe. Once again you prove yourself to be what we all aspire to be.

[–] vsh@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Europe is carrying us fr

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[–] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 110 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As an American, all I can say is thank you Europe for continuing to have sensible legislation that forces these companies to have decent policies worldwide if only to comply with EU laws. I only use Windows on my company provided laptop but just because I don't need to worry about it personally doesn't mean that I shouldn't care about how it affects others.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're basically dependent on the EU and California to have any rights as consumers at all.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So apparently having consumer-friendly laws does in fact lead to better products. Cool.

Perhaps the USA and other countries should follow the EU's good example on this.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 77 points 1 year ago

Yeah turns out businesses behave when you legislate their misdeeds instead of just calling them job creators

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 76 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Now there will be two versions of Windows. One that adheres to EU regulation, and another that's filled with ads for everyone else.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Windows 12 Euro Trash Edition and Windows 12 Red Blooded God Anointed American Edition. If either crosses the EU boarder the computer will explode killing everyone in a 10 meter radius.

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[–] query@lemm.ee 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They say if you don't pay, you're the product, but that's obviously bullshit, paying solves nothing. The saying should be never trust corporations.

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[–] Djtecha@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Once steam covers 90% of games windows becomes irrelevant.

[–] atthecoast@feddit.nl 41 points 1 year ago (13 children)

So what you’re saying is, 2024 will be the year of Linux on the desktop?

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago

Regulation works.

[–] mathterdark@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Only in EU/EEA countries. So us here in ~~Gilead~~ America are SOL at the moment

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Does Linux let you disable its system-embedded advertisements? Didn't think so!

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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At last. This is actually good news for Windows itself because people will be more inclined to use it again if they don't see ads, aren't tracked, can set any default browser etc.

So it's good for both users and Microsoft.

Sometimes these corporations just can't help themselves by adding trash and they need a mommy figure to force them to stop doing that which ultimately benefits themselves.

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[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m genuinely worried if hell is okay, are you guys getting a tad chilly?

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago
[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hell has truly frozen over. I guarantee that uninstalling edge will break something else in Windows

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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 1 year ago

FUCK YEAH! EAT SHIT MICROSOFT!

I mean...I still would've blocked the ads no matter what. I paid for my computer it's mine and I should be allowed to control it.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

EU to the rescue once again.

[–] vbb@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (12 children)

As a Linux user, this is freaking funny.

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

You should still switch to Linux.

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

How do they verify that I'm in the EEA? Do I need to sign up through a VPN when I register Windows or do I just specify an EEA country during the install?

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I will do whatever it takes for my non-European windows install to behave like a European windows install.

If I got rid of ads on windows if be much happier with the OS and would not have such a grudge against using it.

I can’t wait until benchmarks are run on the two versions side by side to see if it impacts battery life and or performance.

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