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I see that Getty sells high resolution royalty-free stock images for $500. I assume that's a license in perpetuity to use the image however and wherever you want but just not be able to resell it yourself. I also assume that means they can keep selling the same license to others for the same photo.

I took some photos that I provided to a major publisher along with an article I wrote that then syndicates my article in the relevant local travel magazine website. They told me they were going to use my article (and paid me for it) and not use the photos I took. I've discovered the company has published one of my photos in four articles (not written by me) in two major City local travel websites, crediting me on the photo but I received no compensation nor was asked permission to uses it.
Normally they get non-exclusive rights to any of my photos they use with my article for an additional $50/photo charge.

I'm trying to figure out a ballpark reasonable fee they should pay per photo. Seems to me at minimum they should pay $50 X 4 articles. = $200? And a lot more if they want exclusive rights to use the image.

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[–] altitudearts@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Talk to a lawyer, not Reddit.

[–] cookie_kindness@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not to let the publisher off the hook, but there’s a good chance your photos were uploaded to some sort of content management system along with other photos that they actually licensed, and someone in the organization found yours and assumed they were licensed.

If you hope to work with this publisher again, $200 is on the very low side but won’t burn a bridge. If you don’t expect to work with them again, I’d invoice more like $1000 – search for some legalese to include in your communications with them.

I’m assuming your info was in the metadata and that’s how they knew to credit you? It’s a good lesson for artists to populate those metadata fields before sharing work with clients.

[–] 0000GKP@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not to let the publisher off the hook, but there’s a good chance your photos were uploaded to some sort of content management system along with other photos that they actually licensed, and someone in the organization found yours and assumed they were licensed.

Well then that system is not managing the content very well. It's still their responsibility.

I’m assuming your info was in the metadata and that’s how they knew to credit you? It’s a good lesson for artists to populate those metadata fields before sharing work with clients.

I'm curious how you think the client can lack the knowledge required to track author and licensing information in a content management system but somehow have the knowledge to inspect image metadata to extract the embedded contact information?

[–] cookie_kindness@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Because I’ve seen it happen first-hand. The metadata fields get automatically pulled over into the content management system, but there’s no field for “this has been properly licensed and here are the terms,” at least in the one I’ve seen. It’s a flaw, to be sure. Irresponsible but not nefarious.

[–] Darkatile@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

How do y’all prove that it’s your photo? I feel like anyone can say it’s their photo?

[–] mosi_moose@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What rights did you grant in this particular instance, especially with regard to syndication?

This article shares some useful information on syndication starting where it says: The syndication agency I started with was…

https://petapixel.com/2019/01/19/the-pros-and-cons-of-syndicating-your-photos/

Lots of fluff upfront, so I’d skip ahead.

[–] Imherebcauseimbored@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Do you have a contract with this publication? Is it your contract or theirs? If so, what are the terms of the contract regarding use of photos?

Your potential recourse here may depend greatly on a contract or lack thereof. If you have a contact that has stipulations on the use of the photos, you definitely have a leg to stand on when seeking compensation due to breach of contract.

If there is no contract, this is where things are less clear. You provided them with the images so they may be entitled to the use of the images as long as you're credited (as it appeared they did). On the other hand, if you registered the images, there is potential that you may be entitled to compensation even without a contract.

Every single contract or release that I use covers commercial use of my photos for this reason. It's much easier to win a breach of contract than it is to win a copyright case, as most photographers don't register their photos. My understanding is that registering photos for copyright (within 90 days) is key in winning a copyright case and your chances of a win are much lower without registering them.

For the most accurate advice you need to contact an attorney and not all of us clueless keyboard warriors here on reddit. Most will give you a free consultation to advise you if you have a potential case or not.

Or you could just invoice them for $200 if you feel that's what your photos were worth and maybe they will cut you a check.

[–] BeingBalanced@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

First they said they will take it down (as if that was enough.) Then agreed to pay $250.