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Dude really told Wiseman to “hold my beer.”

I don't watch Pistons games but what's absolutely hilarious is that there's an active starter with a lower WS in fewer games (-1.1WS in 88 games, all games started) whos also on the Pistons. Think his name was Cade Cunningham or something idk

Yet half of our sub still capes up for him. Sad.

And the week he plays well is of course against my fantasy team

He is a decent to good Euroleague player and should've stayed in europe from a sports perspective, but i assume money and the opportunity were too good to pass up.

Kevin Oconnel is batting .1000 with this take. 😂

TRASH!!!

Cherry-picking stuff, it's a cumulative stat and doesn't say anything about him starting right now. Cade has MUCH worse WS at -1.1.

I think Killian should've been picked lower as Euro-stash pick instead of starting that early. He's finally showing that he is an NBA player. He's only slightly worse than Ivey - the issue is playmaking not defense, Ivey is actually a better defender.

I like his starts solely because he’s actually doing decent in points based fantasy. I’ve heard too many complaints bout his actual on court offense though.

If Win Share is the stat you're going with he's 5th on the Pistons this year and ahead of Ivey.

KOC in shambles

I watched the Pistons/Sixers game and he was the best player for Detroit. He was really impressive.

I'm never selling my Killian stock, send him to us, we need a poor shooter who plays defense instead of just mediocre shooters who don't play defense as rotation players instead

I read an article recently from The Athletic and there was a question regarding Hayes vs Ivey and it seemed to basically come down to culture building and Ivey's development. Monty is trying to establish a culture of defense and rebounding vs offense which Hayes is more fitting to than Ivey. Monty also believes that Ivey hasn't earned his minutes over Hayes as he struggles with positioning, defense, turnovers, etc (all normal young guard things to struggle with). As far as Hayes vs anyone else, the situation right now may be just do to injuries and I wouldn't be surprised if the lineup changes again once Alec comes up to speed and Bojan recovers from his injury.

Looks decent on the eye test. Rarely makes mistakes on offense and can guard decently. Can't shoot but coaches like defence and setting a culture. Maybe Monty sees something in him we can't see. We have seen Julius Randle become a good player so anything is possible.

he's probably played with the least amount of talent around him in the entire league since he's been in the league.

stats can be overrated. if he's on the floor with garbage teammates who are all contributing to negative +/-'s, his win share potential is low

if he played on the same teams as derrick white has played on, i think his win share would be higher just because the teams would have more positives to average for the entire roster.

i think he's fine as your 5th or 6th best player.

He’s Killian his teams chance at winning games

He’s the classic last one in first one out

Pistons will never go anywhere not because of Hayes who will not be a starter in a two years radius but because Cade is so ineffective that's it's painful to watch, but y'all not ready for this.

Problem isn't about a man who will not be here in 3 years but because your future franchise player is one of the worst TS% of all nba.

I thought he's been playing pretty well so far this season (for his ridiculously low expectations)?