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kz is scam company i ordered pair in 1111 discounts and they told me to cancel it or wait more then aliexpress 75 days delivery limit so basically its scam

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[–] c0ng0pr0@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

You “pre-ordered” a pair. They labeled that part in red to stand out extra from all their other website designs.

It’s not a scam. You snooze… you lose.

[–] King-Me-666@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It happen the same on the launch for the PR2, best guess, is gonna sound horrid because of tuning and QC problems

[–] Pfafflewaffle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I wouldn’t say horrid, maybe inconsistent among other sets. Pr2 v1 is pretty amazing for $30.

[–] Mausebert@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mine just says "Friend, thank you for your order, we will send it out as soon as possible" and it wouldnt be the first time for a seller to ship or update the tracking information on day 11 out of 12. I buy in Ali fairly often and this is pretty common.

It will be alright, not all the sellers ship right away.

[–] c0ng0pr0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I ordered from 5 different Aliexpress stores. KZ was one of them. All shipped on different days. 2 still haven’t left mainland China.

[–] Normal_Donkey_6783@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It sell pretty well on aliexpress. My guess is KZ dont even think they could sell that much on aliexpress (international market) and so they dont have sufficient stocks ready for the orders on aliexpress (international market).

Plus, it flagged as a featured brands/shipped within 72hours on aliexpress, so I think its kinda proper for them to ask buyer to extend the shipping time, when they couldnt meet the shipped within 72hours criteria.

You can cancel order and get refunded immediately because the item is not shipped yet. If you changed ur mind after cancellation, then you can probably place an order again during black friday sales or 1212 sales.

[–] TRX808@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah I'd advise never to order directly from KZ.

Even if you ignore the drama around the technical abilities of their headphones, the person(s) running the company is extremely unprofessional and unpredictable.

[–] PolarBearSequence@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] c0ng0pr0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I don’t think they solved the energy requirement problem yet… so I’m with on this.

[–] ashyjay@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just don't waste money on KZ.

[–] Own_Number3579@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Man, KZ are the main manufacturer for many IEM other brand. Just be carefull when you bash some brands. They are the leader. Moondrop having huge issue on iem fail after some weeks. i order since the last 2years many kz iems and never having issue with it,.

[–] Vysair@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They dont sound bad for the price. Just dont drop crazy amount of money for them though and as other have said, they manufactured numerous other brand as well

[–] Pfafflewaffle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Always go aliexpress for kz, you usually get them for 1/2 the price of let’s say Amazon.

[–] AngryDragonoid1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I bought KZ before the drama. I still use them, but I won't buy anymore.

[–] c0ng0pr0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What made you try KZ in the first place?

My thought was the QDC port would be the least like to break on me. I’m not gentle with my electrics.

[–] AngryDragonoid1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Dankpods recommended them. I was between them and KBears, so I flipped a coin like I do for all my decisions that carry little weight.

If either the result of the decision doesn't matter, or the two decisions are identical, I'll flip a coin. Leaves my decisions for more important things.

[–] jarlaxle_baenre_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We weren't going to buy it either way but thanks.

[–] maXXXjacker@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I didn't realize this was out now. They can have my money, I absolutely love the PR2 and have no doubt that PR3 will be excellent. I'll get my hands on it one way or another, I don't care if KZ is a scummy company, a good product is a good product and in this case the PR2 (v1) was a good product and I don't doubt that the PR3 will be one as well.

[–] c0ng0pr0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I’d want more energy efficiency from the next planar I get. Not enough improvement going from PR1 Pro to PR3 for me.

[–] Chok3U@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I just realized these were out too. Or will be out.

I was about to get some Chu II's, and the pr3's pop up beside them on Ali. I've never even heard planar and really want to.. I was gonna get the pr2 but I felt I couldn't drive them properly. Now these with 15impedance and 94sensitivity, they should be able to be powered by anything.

I'm gonna wait until the reviews come out, but I'm 95% sure I'll be getting them.

[–] c0ng0pr0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Eagerly awaiting positive reports on this.

I’d love to be able to drive them with bluetooth hooks KZ makes.

[–] Pfafflewaffle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They will still be hard to drive. The sensitivity is low, which is what made the pr2 require 2vrms basically.

[–] RiddleGiggle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

they told me to cancel it or wait more then aliexpress 75 days delivery limit so basically its scam

That's not what they told you though. They told you to extend shipping time which is the time they have to submit a tracking number to the system, which is like 12 days on Ali I believe.

It's not unusual for sellers on Ali during big sales to run out of stock, yes I agree it's a bit questionable to sell things you don't have readily in stock, but it's not exclusive to KZ. For example a lot of people are waiting for their Dawn Pro DAC to get shipped from Moondrop, which is a much more respectable company in the chinese IEM world, so they'll have to either do the same and ask for extension or... yeah I don't know what else - but their Ali store listing for Dawn Pro has some negative reviews with people stating that they've just outright submitted a fake tracking number to avoid having to ask people for extension. Is that true? Who knows.

[–] NoCitron282@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Have the zs10 pro X and they’re awesome for the price. Came in a few weeks through AliExpress no issues. Pre-ordered the PR3s and have no expectation on delivery as it’s a pre-sale. Obviously some people don’t understand how some of this stuff works and blames the company for it. Go to your local store and pick something in stock if you’re concerned about lead time. Seems very reasonable they offer you to cancel and get your money back.

[–] Timwillhack@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I also have zs10 pro x and with a discount on msrp they are one of the best cheap iems you can get. Very clear. I am a big fan of hybrids. Even though KZ has had quite a bad rep, you gotta give them credit by aggressively pushing more value into budget iems, that has created pressure for their competition to do the same. Their as16 pro (16 BA's) was only $30 on 11.11. Thats insane!

[–] Own_Number3579@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I order 5 differents pairs of KZ Audio, but always on the official Aliexpress store from kz-audio.com website. ever get issue,ç on shiupping, Always get in withinh 10 business days in canada. Be aware of reseller on another website., ALWAYS order on official store. I order new KZ Krilla, KZ Castor, KZ AST and KZ Krilla 2x for gifting to friens in the last 4 months.

[–] thorsealtiel@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

mine is in transit, though i bought it from the kztws.com site and not from aliexpress resellers. plus I couldn't even search kz pr3 on aliexpress, it only shows pr2 and other models even after a lot of pages.

[–] ContentAcanthaceae12@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Tell them your not their friend.

[–] 7ONKE00@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Bro,the store you ordered is not their official. They wrote their official store name and attach the link from their page. And claimed that Only order from the following official channel store link can be delivered earlier.link

[–] MinimumBeginning4856@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You’ve posted in the IEM, and Headphone subreddit multiple times to point out your ignorance on this subject. You’ve called them a scam, fake, bad company, etc all because you bought a pre-order product and they asked for an extension as it’s a super popular release. This is a sad thing to spend your time on. Just wait for your more than likely good pair of iems to show up. But you’ll probably just plug them into your laptop and complain about sound quality on an 8th post anyways.

[–] pk6366@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

kz entered the chat

[–] Pfafflewaffle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I’d grab them, but I already have a black mesh pr2, an mp145, z12 and timeless ae. I don’t even know the fr, they probably don’t either lol.