This isn’t even a home match for Germany lmao. The crowd is so one sided.
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Getting Olé chants against you in your own stadium is kinda nuts man.. lmaooo. Germany are finished
Chances for a draw were there
German freunde, what would you say is the problem here? This german generation of players are not that good, the coach?
Estoy cansado jefe
3 at the back strikes again. When will managers stop with this shit. We should have just stuck with Voller lol
Can I be a NT plastic and just claim to be french? I just want to watch decent games in the international break again.
This German team is actually hopeless, not even a Klopp-Pep combo can save this generation
i am glad i never got too excited
Agreed. We need to come to terms with the fact that this generation just isn't as good.
Not that surprising either. Playing football just isn't as big of a thing here as it was until the 90s. The bolzplatz (public football ground) we fought over when we were kids is almost always deserted and has been for years. Other countries like Japan have caught up with us not because something changed on the professional level, but because 15 years ago there was more football-mania among kids in Japan than there was in Germany.
cause school lasts until 16:30h. and after that you go to your local sportverein. it has nothing to do with football being unpopular.
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I know a lot of people who are going to be absolutely insufferable about this loss for the next few years
The DFB hired the wrong coach if their goal was to bring pragmatic, result orientated football
I don’t know what their goal was but if that was it then Nagelsmann was obviously the worst choice you could make. Playing normal and pragmatic football seems too boring for him.
Man I’ve never really watched/supported my other NTs but if we lose against Austria I might have to take a break for the Euros
Cant play with a 3/5 defense when you dont even have the players for it sane and kai dont know the position to play the defensive part whole game with discipline And henrichs is wasted as rcb . When pressed high the offense doesnt drop far enough back and there is a big space between def and offense which forces long high balls and we dont have players who can shield the ball or win a header fülle a little but not nearly enough. Gündogan kimmich pairing is bad because they are both weak defensive and get outbodied and outrun, if you play with 2 you need 1 who can win the ball back. Quite a few more things but these are the big and important things.
Si, when do you try different things if not on friendlies? Isn’t that the point of these matches?
Well there are almost no games left the time for such tests is over
If the problem is lack of quality of players then the solution is to try something out of the box.
Getting drowned out at a home game is really something ngl. Was similar in the Gala game at home a few weeks ago as well. Not German but it kinda pisses me off
Same thing in US, we play Mexico and fans whose great grandfather is Mexican and they cheer for them over the country they were born in and lived in all their life
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I feel much more comfortable with Trapp in goal than Hair Stegen
Whistling is lame. Lord Kai please shut them up
What position is havertz playing
You start havertz, you get sacked. It’s been the way since the inception of havertz. No manager is immune to havertz. Nagelsmann if he’s smart, will realise the curse before he gets the pink slip
Still think Germany has a better chance of winning the euros than England, for example.
I'm a staunch supporter of Germany. But honestly I think we don't deserve the Euro this year with such a team. Sure individual players are good on paper but I don't see any cohesion between them as a team like the golden era Germany (2010 and 2014 for ex). Sure we'll be able to get out of the group stage and max. Round of 32. But I have low hopes from them to go beyond round of 16. Three lions on the other hand, are having time of their life. That being said I still think they will still choke in the final or worse - semis. This is mainly because of their manager and nothing else.
No way dude
Lol we are worse than Turkey.
The fact that there is not a single german defender in Bayern’s starting lineup speaks volumes. Gone are the days of Boa , Lahm and Hummels , Ginter etc keeping it safe and quiet at the back. Bayern need to speed up and intensify development of some home grown defending talents if they don’t want to continue outsourcing expensive transfers from outside the league. As for Dortmund idk wth is up with Sule and Schlotterbeck just standing like two giant easter island dummies . If Rudiger could just put in some serious work in his performances like he does in his aggressive animated theatrics it will do him very well in the long run.
Bro judging by the game I saw there weren’t any German defenders in Germanys squad either
I was optimistic over and over again and I got disappointed over and over again.
For now, I lost all hope that these guys can grow together as a team. They just don’t fit. Literally every player has been tested in all possible formations and tactics. We even tried „the best coaches“ we have.
The puzzle just doesn’t solve. We have good players, not as good as one generation before, especially in the Defense which is horrific right now tbh, but midfield and attack has great potential, at least in theory. But it seems they can’t be formed as a working unit.
Maybe we have to accept and wait until it gets better. Our gems Musiala and Wirtz still have over a decade left. Plenty of time to form a team around them.
They could fit they just need some body to set them up to do the basics. This complicated wing back rubbish is idiotic. Just play 4-4-2 and focus on the basics.
It can work, look at Voller’s set up v France when they did exactly that.
The DfB made the appointment though so they are going to have to live with the humiliation next summer.
Yeah, maybe you have a point on that.
I understand Nagelsmann is trying new things and want to give everyone a chance but instead he should probably settle for a team that works and this one obviously didn't. So close to the EM he basically should've already decided who is in the team and who is not.
Suggesting that 3 at the back is a good idea with this squad is a sackable offence. It just shows such an awful lack of tactical awareness, historic source digestion and creativity. It’s like suggesting we don’t play with a goalkeeper or putting Havertz in defence.
Hansi Flick wasn't the problem, but he definitely had too much trust in Kimmich and should have done more to keep Kroos.
My opinion keeping player like Hummels, Boateng, and Muller away from the team after 2018 really hurt the identity of the team. I actually think that the 35 Yr olds Hummels and Boateng would be a better pair than anything we have seen so far, obviously never going to happen. This group can still win the Euros but it will have to come from an entire overhall within german football. The question is can Nagelsmann be the one to orchestrate this change.
I actually think that the 35 Yr olds Hummels and Boateng would be a better pair than anything we have seen so far,
Boateng can't even find a club.
He turned down Everton in hopes that he could end his career in Bayern. It's not a lack of ability, it's his on going court case.
But the point I am making is that those two are very consistent and predictable players, you know what they will bring. The rest of the crew is so inconsistent with the exception of Rudiger who is mostly on point.
He treated Bayern like shit at the end and now wants to come back what a clown
What do all these managers see in Havertz really? Like... why do so many want to die on this hill out of all hills?
I really thought Nagelsmann would be pragmatic but he just can't help himself can he?