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Hi everyone,

I have memorized my seed phrase. This struck me as a crucial security measure, especially in a space where personal responsibility for security is paramount.

However, I've noticed that this doesn't seem to be a common practice among my peers and in the broader Ethereum community. This got me wondering: why is memorizing your seed phrase not as widespread as I expected?

Is it due to the fear of forgetting it, or do most people rely on other forms of secure backups? Perhaps it's the complexity of the phrases or a general lack of awareness about how effective this method can be?

I'm curious to hear your thoughts and experiences. Do you memorize your seed phrase? If not, what are your preferred methods for secure storage? Let's discuss the pros and cons of this approach and share best practices for ensuring the safety of our digital assets.

Looking forward to your insights!

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[–] flossraptor@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Very few people on the planet face a threat model where memorizing a seed phrase is worthwhile. Leaving a seed phrase accessible long enough to memorize it considerably increases the likelihood of it being compromised. Locking it up and hiding it immediately greatly reduces this possibility.

You are right about it not being difficult to memorize a seed phrase. It is not hard to do many things that are unnecessary and unlikely to be useful. Only an idiot would fail to realize that such an exercise is essentially pointless, and then proceed to brag about his ability to memorize a few words, while simultaneously demonstrating his inability to reason about basic things.

[–] chochotrainlove@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

You logic and you will get the answer to your question

[–] hardcoregamer84@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The first issue that comes to mind is if you end up in an accident with potential brain loss. The 2nd comes from the phrase, if you don’t use it, you lose. So if you aren’t thinking about your seed phrase often, chances are your recollection of it will become hazy. Just my 2 cents.

[–] CryptoTrader2100@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True that constant review is necessary. I used the method where you imagine the words in different places in your house and you imagine walking around the house looking at the words to recall them. It works very well except that it does require periodic review, which means keeping the phrase handy to verify your memory... which defeats the purpose of having it memorized.

[–] brisnatmo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

But what if you move to a new house???

[–] coinsquad@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Your brain is very unreliable. How many times did you go downstairs and you forgot why?

[–] Lbkelp@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I recently thought about it. Just in case you have to suddenly flee the country lol

[–] UchihaTuga@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Memory is a crazy thing. You can memorise great strings of text and numbers if you use them almost everyday/week. You can even memorise an entire song, ten or a hundred, and sing them by heart after years of not hearing them. Maybe you will miss a word or two, but hey, it's a whole damn song! But what if the song was just gibberish? What if it was just 20 something random words? Do you listen to those random words everyday? Say them out loud? Sing them to yourself? Guess I'll wait for you to tell us how that's going for you in a year or two.

[–] CartoonistSad3954@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I remember most of Lemon Demon's Word Disassociation and I haven't heard it in 15 years. It's a funny thing with music that aids in memory.

[–] longlegsq@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Dumb, so many things can go wrong. This isnt it. Good luck.

[–] flicman@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use my seed phrases once a year, maybe less, on random, and rotating non-schedules. I'm nowhere near smart enough to remember a half dozen various seed phrases with different random words and pull those up at will. I make a point not to "need" a seed phrase when I'm away from my office, either, so why would I ever need it memorized, even if I were smart enough to memorize?

[–] TellerLine@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

You pretty much just want to flex your brain power and don’t really care to hear constructive responses back lol. Weird post

[–] bosquejo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I do. I have no idea why other people don't

[–] doppy1234@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Multiple wallets, too much seeds

[–] FireFistTy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Forgot the comedy flair.

[–] justinholmes_music@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Here's my reasoning for not simple memorizing my seed:

https://justinholmes.bandcamp.com/track/lost

[–] ChonsonPapa@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Bc dementia

[–] nynjawitay@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Memorizing something like a seed as the only backup is an absolutely terrible idea. If you don't use it often, you will forget it.

Or what happened to me could happen to you. I have MS and had a really bad flare and lost some memories including my ledger pin. Luckily I had it written down in my safe and could recover my funds.

Human brains are squishy. If you got hit by a car, would you want your family or friends able to recover your coins? Because they won't be able to with a memorized seed.

Put 12 words in your safe and the other 12 words in a friend/family safe. No need for fancy Shamir secret sharing or anything like that.

[–] TripleReward@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I have over 100 seeds.

Also knowing my seeds allows me to compromise them.

Them being safely locked up in my offline password manager is just sooo much more secure.

[–] jamesdthomson@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What if you talk in your sleep? Alexa is always listening ;-)

[–] OtherEconomist@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've done it since day one. And people I know are trying to build password recovery applications. When they ask me how do I store my seed phrase, I say I have it memorized, and they're stunned.

I don't get it. It's easy to do.

[–] OtherEconomist@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've got to point this out, the people saying that there is a likelihood that someone gets a head injury, amnesia, and is then called upon in this state to have to recall their seed phrase are just grasping at straws to justify the belief. It's a weak argument as it is extremely unlikely to happen to 99.99% of the human population.

There's some cognitive dissonance there.

[–] mooremo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It's fine if you do, but relying on that as your only means of backup is a significant risk.

[–] McJvck@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please update in 5 years whether you still remember it.

[–] -DvD-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

RemindMe! 5 years

[–] na3than@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why more people don't do it. Mine is stamped in titanium AND I've memorized it. Why wouldn't you do both?

[–] -DvD-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] deadpine_xyz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] -DvD-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] pompousUS@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I also have the 2FA recovery numbers memorized /s

Why not encrypt it and store it ? Too easy ? Or you are a MS Windows user ?

[–] -DvD-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use Gentoo

[–] kuonanaxu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Now make that 5 different seed phrases for 5 different wallets. That's why people can't memorize theirs.

[–] brewcitygymratt@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I know folks that don’t even know their social security number or checking account number from memory. Expecting someone to memorize their seed phrase would be near impossible for those same folks. lol

[–] Zealousideal_Key520@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I wrote my seed phrase on paper, put it in a bottle and threw it in the sea, am I doing it right?

[–] s44rgg@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Memorising something so long will require almost daily or bi-daily reminding. You remember your card pin because it’s 4 numbers and you use it almost every day. 16 totally random and out of context words takes some doing

[–] -DvD-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] SneakyPeeki@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Don’t get hit on the head

[–] st_chewy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I don't believe you remembered all 12 words....prove it by replying here

[–] topdollar3@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] -DvD-@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The amount of people that cannot understand that memorizing it does not imply burning the paper backup is scaring in a sub like this.

I'm going to sell all my bag and buy a T-BONDS

It's a top signal

[–] fairysquirt@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

they might memorize their Mnemonic, as that is literally what Mnemonic means