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I saw the new DMS video where he says at around the 1 minute mark that people with audio technica headphones "don't really care if their headphones sound good". While I think this is true for M50x users, I don't think it is generally true. I've never owned a pair of headphones worth more than $500, but I feel like I've had a respectable amount to the point where I know what I do and don't enjoy in a headphone. I've gone down this rabbit hole of a hobby about a decade ago, and no matter how hard I try I cannot escape the grasp of the MSR7b. It simply has the best sound signature that suits my taste in music.

I've owned 1 pair of open back headphones and hated them because I felt like they didn't have nearly enough bass to suit my needs and that I have a fair amount of white noise in my room at all times. While the M50x are absurdly popular, every person who I've heard talk about their open backs has been singing their praises, even Z. I've been watching DMS for at least a few years now and I don't think I've ever seen him review an AT open back, and yet he goes out of his way to disrespect people who like their headphones. Interesting.

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[–] dongas420@alien.top 2 points 10 months ago

If you don't build your self-identity around your consumer purchasing choices, some light roasting centered around your consumer purchasing choices won't be a problem. If anything, DMS is being far too mild towards Sennheiser basslets and others of such subhuman ilk. Speaking as an HD800S owner, unironically liking the HD800S is the being 4'11" with a Peyronie's micropenis of musical enjoyment tastes

[–] admiralnorman@alien.top 2 points 10 months ago

Hey look we found an Audio Technica owner.

[–] RB181@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As an ATH-M50x, ATH-M70x and ATH-MSR7b user, I take offense to that.

[–] GhengisChasm@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Can't go wrong with the MSR7b, providing detail and not a particularly bass heavy sound is what you're after.

[–] HaruBestGirlEver@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You’re missing the point of the video. The point is to remind ourselves that our hearing is flawed and biased by nature, hence we shouldn’t take ourselves too seriously and attach our personality to a certain brand/product.

It’s only when we realise that we are flawed then we can understand other’s perspective on a piece of gear, and get more enjoyment out of the experience (and subsequently this video)

[–] ashyjay@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Grow up or cry into your ATH-M50x's, the video was him having fun. not everything is serious.

[–] jez_afrykanski@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Wut, you're hurt by some random dude making fun in some random video on YouTube?

[–] TheSenCtizer@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Tbh I do commend AT for making headphones with solid build quality that can take a solid beating while also being foldable in the age of planned obsolescence. A guy once told me people who still use the m40x are stuck in the 2010s, then my response was that the reason the m40x is still relevant today is because they last so freaking long that people who bought it on release back in 2010s are still using them today lmao, and I see why people swear by them.

[–] GamePro201X@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It’s a joke video; not really meant to be serious though it does have a couple glints of truth

[–] roladyzator@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I recall DMS himself admitted in a video that he regretted selling ATH-R70X.

I haven't watched the video but others here comment it was likely said as a joke.

Audio-Technica are not bad IMO. They've made good and bad, expensive and cheap models. Some where successful, some weren't. Each audio product is a compromise. I see no reason not to audition any ATH model when looking for new headphones.

[–] Regular-Cheetah-8095@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Imagine a universe in which anybody with two brain cells they can rub together to create an original thought hasn’t given a single solitary fuck about anything a YouTube content creator has had to say since High School.

If some clownshoe on the internet who pays their bills by appealing to lowest common denominator clicks has made purchasing decisions for you or influenced you emotionally in a bizarre sort of audiophile parasocial masturbatory fantasy, somebody really needs to put a conservatorship on your wallet and internet usage.

I don’t know this man. He looks like circa 1998 Rivers Cuomo if he had a crystal meth habit. I have no reason to care what this person or all of the affiliate marketing dispensing defacto employees of audio companies who call themselves unbiased reviewers while linking you to 53 products per video or slowly panning over a room filled with gear they help sell. Cereal boxes have more legitimately useful information than I’m going to get from these guys, especially in audio.

I don’t care about Audio Technica or this brand versus this other brand or a bunch of That One Guy hot takes. If Enron partnered with Emperor Palpatine to make an awesome pair of well-measuring high quality headphones I enjoyed while demo’ing that OG social media influencer Jesus Christ told me were bad and wouId send me directly to Hell, I would still absolutely purchase and enjoy those headphones.

You can listen to the damn things yourself if you want a subjective opinion. You can look at measurements if you want objective information. Or you can listen to and look at people like this guy. He might tell you what not to buy and what to buy in ways that influence your purchasing decisions, but I can promise you he isn’t going to help you get your money back if it turns out you don’t like the stuff.

[–] b0ltje@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Somewhere on this world it's kiddy bed time right now, so go to sleep dude and grow a pair. This rant is looking kind of pathetic

[–] Riddler9884@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

So I love my Audio Technicas, but for the longest time I was annoyed at the non detachable cable. Right around the same time 2 things were happening:

  • I was bit by the bug and got a second hand set of Sundara (which I still have)

  • Started messing with AutoEQ

Long story short:

  • I don’t want to listen to my PC without a DAC, because the internal DAC is kind of a pain to use. I love the big Volume knob with Gain switches (convenience).

  • While the Sundara sound slightly better than my AD-900 (Both after EQ), I consider the Sundara a little clunkier to put on, take off and more fragile. It’s less of a hassle to use my Audio Technicas as a daily driver and bring out the Sundara on occasion.

[–] Deskartius@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It's called AudioTechnica , not AudioSoundGoodtica

[–] Vulcanicloud@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

This is a hobby where we spend stupid amounts of money for headphones and whatever else audio related. What's wrong with being goofy and making light fun of each other.

Also who cares that some youtuber made fun of a certain group of headphone users. DMS is like one of the most mild dudes in this community. It's a light hearted jab, grow up. This post is a certified baby cringe moment.

[–] what_that_thaaang_do@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I think the video was a joke buddy

[–] Regular-Ad3218@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It was satire..

[–] lotj@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I saw the new DMS video where he says at around the 1 minute mark that people with audio technica headphones "don't really care if their headphones sound good".

You mean, the joke video where he goes through every nearly headphone manufacturer and makes fun of those who enjoy their products?

[–] whitesaviorbehavior@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

are you really all the things that are outside yourself?

[–] JackHareAir@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I just think these videos where they target specific groups in a particular hobby are more for entertainment. Like, Andrew Morgan just did a tier list on watch brands and had some descriptive (and funny to me) analogy for each one. You just shouldn't take this type of content too personal. Hell, in a viral foodie TikTok video, someone said a particular local restaurant that I'm fond of "is for fuccbois". LOL.

[–] vostmarhk@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I won't comment on the main topic of the post, but I will say that if you enjoy MSR7b sound signature (like I do), then you most likely will like Grado SR**x-series sound. I recommend to try them out as an open back set. I recently got SR80x and they are quite similar to MSR7b in overall tonality: the sound is more colored / less accurate, but lower mids are fuller and there is a bit more aggression to the sound delivery.

But also yes, MSR7b is easily the best sub-$350 closed back out there as far as I am concerned in regards to overall sound quality. Very underrated model.

[–] ProphetNimd@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

There has never been someone who needs to touch grass more than you.