This is a dumb post overall, but really highlights how terrible our receivers are lol. Although Toney’s first game is still almost 20% of their drops this season
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His current completion percentage is 67.1%. If every dropped ball had been caught, his completion percentage would be 74% which would be 4% better than any other starting QB (Brock Purdy at 70%) in the league.
Yeah sure, except you'd have to then adjust the completion % of every other QB to account for drops as well to make this comparison even remotely meaningful.
Now do the same for every other qb in the league. Purdy would probably be at like 75% at least if it wasn’t for drops
Wtf is this dumb ass analysis? Yeah how about adjust this for EVERY QB in the league and not just your favorite or??
Most of the “drops” are missed throws.
Mahomes is getting the Mac Jones special. Horrible WRs play and separation. Should have paid Tyreek
Shit happens. He's gotten his fair share of miraculous breaks too. All averages out in the end.
You can tell that you know what you posted was dumb by your lack of engagement in comments.
I thought Dak's WRs let him down last season, but this is whole new level. There were so many strikes last night that my grandmother could've caught with her oven mitts.
This is real dumb
How does this compare to the league average? Drop %?
Maybe they should have paid Tyreek… you get what you pay for lol
This would be more informative if you simply changed the dropped passes to the league average.
There’s a reason Tom Brady always took less money than he was entitled to.
The Mahomes PR team is working overtime this week. Lol
For fairness shouldn't Purdy throws dropped be added on just to make it apples to apples
And I still think he’s gonna fuck everybody come playoff time
stupid post
Take away all the completions and see how good he is THEN!
We reached progress from the mean status
68.1% is still pretty good
Progress his completion percentage to the mode.
Unfortunately, the drops statistical doesn’t take into consideration he’s a bottom third QB in terms of on target%, despite being bottom 10 in IAY/PA
Ok but the way you word it sounds like you’re only adjusting Mahomes, are you adjusting all the other quarterback stats for drops also?
When your QB is getting paid 210mil from 2023-26, Chris Jones at 28mil, and you're paying 2 OLine handsomely you're gonna lack receivers.
Chiefs chose to build defense and OLine now, gotta live with bad receivers.
Now do every qb in the league!
Come on man… every team has dropped passes… trust me. As a Bears fan this is just “what happens” normally…. I think chiefs fans have had it too good for too long lol
Only one team is #1 in the league in drops.
Jordan Love feels his pain (although Mahomes is at a completely different and elite level, this shit hurts).
So I think the only way these stats would matter much at all is if you calculated drops as a percentage of attempted passes for every team in the league and then used that average instead of the raw numbers. The Chiefs pass a lot. Then you'd have to adjust everyone's stats toward the "expected" number of drops in order to compare them much at all.
Of course, this stat is a bit too subjective to be super relevant anyway lol
Is Mahomes adjusting to the mean?
What is amazing to me about Mahomes is how effortless his throws look - even his long throws. Rodgers - as a counter example - always looked to me like he was exerting in his throws. But Mahomes looks like he is handing someone a grocery bag filled with popcorn - but really it was a dart thrown 40 yards down field.
Y’all bending over backwards to gobble this dude’s dick, huh?
Adjusted by removing drops, spikes, and throwaways;
| Rank | Player | Adj QB Rat |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Brock Purdy | 122.1 |
| 2 | Russell Wilson | 114.9 |
| 3 | Tua Tagovailoa | 113.0 |
| 4 | Kirk Cousins | 111.9 |
| 5 | Dak Prescott | 111.4 |
| 6 | C.J. Stroud | 108.6 |
| 7 | Jared Goff | 107.8 |
| 8 | Lamar Jackson | 107.8 |
| 9 | Josh Allen | 106.0 |
| 10 | Justin Herbert | 105.3 |
| 11 | Jalen Hurts | 104.2 |
| 12 | Patrick Mahomes | 103.2 |
| 13 | Justin Fields | 101.9 |
| 14 | Joe Burrow | 99.8 |
| 15 | Will Levis | 98.7 |
| 16 | Trevor Lawrence | 98.0 |
| 17 | Derek Carr | 97.8 |
| 18 | Geno Smith | 97.7 |
| 19 | Baker Mayfield | 97.5 |
| 20 | Sam Howell | 96.7 |
| 21 | Deshaun Watson | 94.0 |
| 22 | Gardner Minshew II | 92.3 |
| 23 | Jordan Love | 90.9 |
| 24 | Desmond Ridder | 90.5 |
| 25 | Matthew Stafford | 89.9 |
| 26 | Joshua Dobbs | 89.5 |
| 27 | Kenny Pickett | 85.4 |
| 28 | Mac Jones | 85.3 |
| 29 | Bryce Young | 83.7 |
| 30 | Zach Wilson | 82.8 |
| 31 | Jimmy Garoppolo | 82.4 |
| 32 | Ryan Tannehill | 78.7 |
| 33 | Tyson Bagent | 77.2 |
| 34 | Daniel Jones | 76.6 |
| 35 | Aidan O'Connell | 74.7 |
^(min: 100 att)
hell yeah
Isn’t this what happens when you get paid $50m a year? The salary cap has to come from somewhere. At least they have a decent O-line to protect him so he can wait, scramble and throw it to Kelce.
Or maybe the drops is a reversion to the mean? His past receivers have made him look good ala Purdy /s
Let's not pretend that some of those INTs were simply just terrible throws
Did you just adjust Mahomes' stats away from the mean?
FYI: Unless I missed something, this stat ignores drops by Purdy's targets, if any.
My first thought too. "Lets bump this guy up and compare him to this other guy, but not bump that guy up!"
SMH, Patrick can’t with a Super Bowl with those cats.
We see stuff like this then Mahomes ends up with the AFC title game or superbowl every year lol
If you took all of Josh Allen's incompletions and made them touchdowns instead, he would have 138 on the year (including the 22 passing touchdowns he already has) which would make him the clear front runner for MVP.
OP is really reaching for those grapes