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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i object to this because the phrasing "invasion" still makes it out like the DPRK are the bad guys

it was a civil war, the lead up to the civil war seeing the South have a police dictatorship supported by the U.S. which did literally every awful thing the u.s. has accused the DPRK of doing, including killing people for the wrong fucking haircut

notice how literally no american ever talks about the U.S. civil war with "the North invaded the South"

and they're the good guys because they "ended slavery"*

*terms and conditions apply

[–] huf@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Eeeh, plenty of American civil war revisionists go for that argument actually, it was even a major theme of the ken burns documentary

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

notice how literally no american ever talks about the U.S. civil war with β€œthe North invaded the South”

"War of Northern Aggression" anyone?

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

USA is a threat to world peace.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I remember seeing a "Yakko's World, but with every country the US has bombed since WWII" and was sad to see they forgot the first one in the song, "America".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

(Any other times?)

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm surprised that there are countries we haven't bombed πŸ™ƒ

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Hoping UK is next.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Technically the UK should be red since canada was a british colony. But the map is lacking in general (like hungary and bulgaria not being red)

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Working hard at it tho

[–] Vroomfondel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hmm ... sorry for being so critical. But where does this qualifiy as a meme? It is more like a "straw man" for politics discussion. That's what you want, right?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're right the bottom image is wrong a country can't invade itself.

Also that is not what a straw man is.

[–] gezero@lemmy.bowyerhub.uk 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why is Ukraine not red on the bottom map?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago

North Koreans didn’t fight in Ukraine. They fought in Russia.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Russia should be red for "supporting dictators", too.

Oh I just noticed that we only count invasions for DPRK instead of all the other things.

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 month ago

The dictators that the USA supports are people who don't have popular support or a pre-existing legal framework they derive their power from. They are governors working as proxies for the USA, deriving their authority from the USAs guns. It doesn't just mean people you don't like. Russia's "democracy" is as legitimate as most European liberal democracies. The DPRK has never propped up a dictator, they don't have the power to.

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

What's France doing in red? That's like the ONE invasion for which people had no complaints πŸ˜‚ More nazi punching and less overthrow of democratic governments, please.

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

Canada? I can't find a reference to where we've "invaded, bombed, couped, supported dictators, supported terrorists and/or interfered in elections" in Canada since 1900. Nor Greenland, though we did put nuclear weapons there without being clear about it, if that counts.

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sure, fuck America. But also, fuck North Korea, you know?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Comeon guys. Let's be reasonable and find the common ground. I mean yeah, pff, whatever fuck Hitler I get it. But seriously. Fuck the Jews, you know?

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is so much context missing here it is crazy. This is such a shameless use of manipulative statistics, it would only convince the dumbest of people of its argument.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you think a 'statistic' is?

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't tell if your question is a poorly veiled critique of my comment, or if you genuinely don't see the presentation of data in the post. The image literally has a grouping of data points conveying a narrative; that's statistics. A collection of quantitative data. Just because its bad statistics doesn't mean it isn't.

Okay, I'll bite, what do you think is missing or how could this information be made to be accurate?

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