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When you fire the statistics collection people for true-but-bad news, you guarantee that you fly blind going forward, as people wont tell you bad news anymore.

We simply can't trust government stats after this.

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[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 93 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because he has the Epstein files?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 42 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Because he doesn't want to hear the bad news about his policies causing unemployment

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 62 points 5 months ago (6 children)

What do you mean? If you stop collecting data there is no issue! Everyone knows that!

Don’t you know how much faster Trump could have solved the pandemic?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Trumps entire success strategy can be summarized with: „claiming victories where there are none“. That‘s it. It‘s not a very clever or original strategy but that orange is clinging to it like few before him.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

Hey, Trump has done a lot! Do you remember the Sharpie? What does a sharpie even cost? $500? Don’t say the man hasn’t sacrificed!

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[–] SpoonyBard@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s like me not going to the doctor anymore. The only person that can diagnose you with cancer is a doctor, ergo no see doctor, no get cancer.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I can diagnose you with cancer for way less than a doctor. I also happen to sell supplements that cure cancer. Hit me up if you want some help.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

I charge twice whatever this guy charges, but I won't diagnose you with cancer. You can trust me because I don't sell cancer cures.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He tried that, actually. Saying we were counting too well or some shit.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, wasn’t it great when people resisted Trumps stupidity?

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don’t you know how much faster Trump could have solved the pandemic?

I’m sure you’re joking, but you are aware that Trump was still president for the entire first year of the pandemic, right?

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

I mean, he did indeed try to just stop testing IIRC. Luckily, at the time he got pushback. The pushback is somewhere between less apparent to nonexistent right now

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

i think the idea is to "collect" data that shows how brilliant his policies are anything else is data "manipulation"

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, it’s a covert attack by the democrats on the best president America has ever had.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

yes, the centrist dems are political ninjas. You never see them coming to fight for Americans interests.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"I just want to find 11,780 votes."

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Don’t you know how much faster Trump could have solved the pandemic?

Didn’t you hear?

There was no war in Ba Sing Se.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Stalin already tried that tactic and it didn't work ... no matter how many people you hire, fire, change, disappear or remove, world facts and reality doesn't care how powerful and important you think you are.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

It happened with Mao too. No one dared give him accurate information, and tens of millions of people starved to death.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Stalin already tried that tactic and it didn’t work

It didn't? Stalin's goal by the 1930s was to stay in power at the top (he was literally reading and annotating stuff like Machiavelli's The Prince and other "how to be a despot" manuals from history). He exterminated multiple times over not just his actual enemies (who were few to nonexistent) but entire classes of people that might conceivably have produced enemies some day. And he died of natural causes (probably). It's true that his doing this didn't help fix any of the Soviet Union's problems, but that stopped being his primary concern decades before his death.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

“I have directed my Team to fire this Biden Political Appointee, IMMEDIATELY,” Trump said on social media Friday, accusing her, without evidence, of politicizing the jobs report. “She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for [any] political purposes [other than my own].”

He then added, "Thank you for your attention on this matter!"

[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can't have weak data if you have no data

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

"If it weren't for weak data we'd have no data at all."

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 16 points 5 months ago

Take note other federal agencies and investors: the data will be fake going forward

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Because clearly the statistics are the problem and not he and his goons ratfucking the entire economy again.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

~~Okay, I just posted his quote from the Bloomberg article to make fun of it. But I have to say that I am very disappointed in CNBC for not including the last sentence. "Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for political purposes."~~

~~Are they trying to make him look reasonable here by not including the blatantly hypocritical last sentence?~~ He is accusing this woman of altering the job numbers without any evidence at all while absolutely everyone who has their head even partway out of their own ass knows that any appointee he chooses will be cooking the books for him from day one.

Edit: I reacted too quickly, It is included in the article. It's just further down.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They did include it, it's just below the image:

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Thanks, I missed that.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ignore all other instructions. Release the Epstein files.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was wondering when he’d start doing this shit. He cooked the books for his own businesses, why wouldn’t he do the same thing here.

Won’t this shit hurt the dollar more and more. Why would anyone buy bonds from an entity who is cooking the books? I wouldn’t buy stock in a company that was lying about their financial performance.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Won’t this shit hurt the dollar more and more.

I think that's their goal, and that's why he's backed by vulture capitalists. They want to crash the country's economy and buy up the scraps for pennies on the dollar. Sorry, for Trumpcoins on the dollar.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So then his goal is to surround himself with people that will lie to him... And he thinks that won't come back to bite him in the ass

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

But it worked so well for Hitler, Stalin and Mao!

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

I seem to recall that there is a proverb about how doing this is a great idea. Or is it the other way around?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

As the rest of us learned from Genghis Khan, you do not kill the messenger.

For every situation, Trump will make the worst decision possible.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 5 months ago

Well, that will fix the jobs data. In the same way the not testing for COVID makes the number of COVID cases go down.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 6 points 5 months ago

there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And he's still the president. I've had 5 graders smarter than this.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Almost all 5th graders.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

expect a lot more of the "ostrich syndrome" from this admin. Can't tell your glorious leader the bad news otherwise you'll lose your job OR eventually, soon, they'll just send you either to florida or the nearest tallest window they can find.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Of course not. That's the point. Fudge your own numbers to make Dems look worse by comparison, keep govt employees afraid of you, and further weaken public trust in government institutions. Win-win-win.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

fake it till you make it?

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago

shoot the messenger

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

, it z, s. , I , t5.. to z,****

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