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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 55 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh no. I’ll have to continue to use my Steam Deck even harder now.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Lol, you think steam decks won't go up in price too? Sanctions affect everything. If you already have a deck you're unaffected but if you already have a switch you're also unaffected, for now..

I have a PS5. I don't intend to ever buy a console again. That era is dead.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a PS5. I don't intend to ever buy a console again. That era is dead.

Similar situation here. Bought the PS5 and probably used it for a year or so and now it’s collect dust. Literally. Kind of regretting getting one. I only game on PC nowadays.

I was thinking to get a Switch 2 but then all the chaos hit with the emulation takedowns, Nintendo suing Palworld, Prices of Nintendo games, prices of their accessories and the whole game key card stuff. Just to much negativity.

Still thinking about Steam Deck but it’s 3 years in its life. So not sure whether that’s worth the €700 euro. Have heard it struggles with the current games.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Have heard it struggles with the current games.

Truly depends on the game.

But yeah, there are quite a few AAA/higher graphical fidelity games I just won't bother, even if it's technically playable at a "smooth' 30FPS. Like Kingdom Come 2 ran pretty decently on it, surprisingly, but damn did it really make the game look pretty rough.

I expect there'll be a new Steam Deck in the next year or two.

But, honestly, I still use my Deck a shit ton, especially at work. It's hands down the best portable emulator machine and there are tons of indie games that run great on it. It also works great as a small laptop in desktop mode. I use it almost daily at work.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Truly depends on the game.

Well my main usage for the Deck would be games like; Almost all Switch popular Switch 1 games (except Zelda), Persona 5 Royal, Persona 3 Reload, Metaphor and Expedition 33 as well as the Ori games.

But yeah, there are quite a few AAA/higher graphical fidelity games I just won’t bother, even if it’s technically playable at a "smooth’ 30FPS. Like Kingdom Come 2 ran pretty decently on it, surprisingly, but damn did it really make the game look pretty rough.

I saw videos on YT that Metaphor runs on 30-40FPS in cities, 60FPS in battles and that with emulation it’s a bit hit-or-miss. Someone told me, I’m asking to much of a handheld device but considering that the Deck is €700 which is a kind of a normal budget PC.

This might be a personal thing but 30FPS is going to bother me to no-end. I'm probably just spoiled with the at least permanent 60FPS and very often 144FPS.

But, honestly, I still use my Deck a shit ton, especially at work. It’s hands down the best portable emulator machine and there are tons of indie games that run great on it. It also works great as a small laptop in desktop mode. I use it almost daily at work.

Great to hear! Did not expect the Deck being able to work as a small laptop, hah. Though, my main usage would be gaming at home (for example; in bed, on the couch or outside in the yard). Kind of want a handheld because after 5 days of office work, it's nice to game somewhere else than in front of the PC.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I, too, can't handle 30FPS on many games. Fortunately, there are still lots of recent games that can hit ~45FPS, which--while not great-- makes it much more bearable. And if it's too poor of performance, I will often just stream from my desktop while in bed or on the couch. But again, I primarily use it for less demanding games to begin with (e.g. I've been playing a lot of Dragon Quest X on it recently).

I'm not saying it's worth it for everyone, but if the choice is between its closest competitors and the Deck, I think the Deck offers more value for the money spent.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sure, the deck can go up in price, but it would have to go up a lot to even reach the Switch’s current price. The Switch was already way more than I’d be willing to pay to get locked into Nintendo’s ecosystem.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Uh... The cheapest deck is $399. The Switch was $349 and the article says its going up to $399.

The price changes the article is about are for the Switch 1, the 2 is remaining the same.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I don’t know why anyone cares about the Switch 1 prices. They make no sense where they are.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The cheapest model of Steam Deck, LCD 256GB, starts at $400.

After this price hike, the Switch Lite starts at $230, and OLED maxes at $400.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We’re talking about the Switch 2.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No we aren't, this price hike only affects Switch 1.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago

Ah, ok. Well then this is probably moot anyway. There’s a huge second hand market for the Switch 1.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The Switch 2 is only $50 more than the cheapest model of Steam Deck.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It also has fewer (and more expensive) games and is quite a bit more restrictive.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That wasn't the argument, though. Im not saying the switch is better, I'm saying the argument that it's wildly more expensive than the steam deck is patently ridiculous.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It kind of is, though. The cost of the system on its own is not the cost of the platform. Buyung the same games on a switch+paying for online mp is substantially more expensive than having a steam deck and using steam.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can also resell (physical) switch games, which you can't do with steam games.

But that's honestly beside the point. Your argument started as a comparison of the prices of the two consoles. Trying to justify a bad argument by changing it after the fact doesn't make it suddenly a good one.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah and you might end up getting your console banned by nintendo if the seller of the used cartridge ripped it.

You assumed what my argument was. You wrre mistaken.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So now we're comparing brand new systems to old used ones? Give it a year or so and I'm sure you'll find used switch 2s on ebay for cheaper as well.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Used isn’t exactly the same as refurbished, but even a new unit is still cheaper than a Switch 2, more versatile, has more games, and isn’t locked into any ecosystem. You get a lot more value with a Steam Deck, and like you said, for $50 less.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago

Good. That’s what you get for voting for a criminal.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

The weird part is apparently Canada got hit by this as well.

I’d be curious what those “market conditions” are that screw over our northern neighbors too 🤔

[–] commander@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

I'm guessing they haven't fully siloed the Canadian supply chain from the US one, it may not be worth it yet to fully silo them off onto separate shipping, packaging, and support channels

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago

Nintendo Forced to Raise Price of Console due to Thinking of Bigger Number

[–] caseofthematts@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

We've always been affected by American prices of things. Some things fly under the radar and will be slightly cheaper here, but for the most part, the prices here are matched market price of the US, despite having a weaker dollar.

I can't imagine anyone would want to buy new games or old consoles for these insane prices, but then the Switch 2 did crazy numbers, so what the fuck do I know?

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The market conditions are nobody kicking Nintendo's lawyers in the teeth and telling them to piss off... regardless of jurisdiction.

Follow that up with the consumer base clamoring for a gimpsuit shaped like the switch 2 and you get this result.

"Yes corporate daddy, punish me harder"

Edit: it would appear some people are unfamiliar with Nintendo's rather questionable actions. Or their lawyers are on Lemmy. One of those.

[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No dude your comment just makes no sense.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I can break it down:

Why is this happening to us (the consumer)?

Asked by the consumer who has broken records buying the switch 2 with the batshit insane clause: "We can brick your console for any reason and are denying your rights to how and where you can sell your purchased games."

That'd be the gimpsuit.

Shall I detail the number of times nintendont has overstepped it's legal rights and trampled on those of developers, consumers, and frequently their own employees?

Nintendo's lawyers know no boundaries. They frequently get apologists making excuses for them while they force their will on whomever they please. What they need is a solid kick in the teeth and to be told to fuck right off.

Why are they jacking prices up? Why are they inserting assinine clauses in user agreements?

Because people just love the abuse apparently. That's certainly what the market appears to be saying: "Yes daddy N. punish me harder."

I believe that summarizes the intent of my original statement sufficiently.

I didn't think it required that much thought... but apparently I was mistaken.

[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When all you end up posting comes off as nonsensical ramblings, yeah explanation is needed so people can actually understand you. Otherwise it just looks like nonsensical ramblings.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Agree to disagree, I suppose. The OP could use a colon and perhaps a small edit for clarity. That's a far cry from nonsensical ramblings. But I cannot speak for your ability to digest a post made quickly - so if that's how it was received: I imagine the explanation should have been sufficient. Your response suggests otherwise. My point was made, and clarified, which to me is sufficient. If you can't work though it - that's unfortunate but acceptable.

[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

No, the original comment just did not make any sense to begin with.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

$70 was already ridiculous for a Joy-Con

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

I think its ridiculous that every console's controller is $70 or more, but the JoyCons are most ridiculous because they are also built like trash and get terrible stick drift after just a few months.

[–] 123@programming.dev 11 points 4 days ago

Defective from the factory by design joy con.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

!pcmasterrace

Edit: didn't realize there was hate for PCMR, did something happen?

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well, chances are PCs will be getting more expensive too. This isn't really a Nintendo thing but a Trump tarries thing

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I thought he was going to exempt phones, chips, and computers? Idk, he changes his mind on the tariffs every couple of hours. Fucking jackass.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Didn’t upvote or downvote you, but just voicing my disdain for that stupid ass slogan because “master race” has always been associated with Nazi beliefs, and I don’t think making it cute or trying to take it back is something that should really even be considered. Let it die.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's fair, I was never a fan of the name.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for the nice reply. I hope you have a great weekend.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Aw, my pleasure :) you have a great weekend as well!