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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 153 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's not free. It comes from our taxes. School lunch is free for the kid, and paid for by taxes.

And if you think that's a bad thing, then why does the military give free lunches to its soldiers?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 54 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They get free clothes and free housing too.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My brother in law is an ex-marine, no college and now easily makes 4x what I do. Free network, free training, free career, low-interest loan on his house. I promise I'm not bitter... But if that's not socialism I don't know what is.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Believe it or not, there are a subset of us that understand this and want those things for the citizenry (we're now part of) too. Seeing taxes tangibly invested back into you is a wonderful thing.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Yeah I get it, he's a good dude and you sound like one too. The only real resentment I harbor is towards our government. Because the military seems to offer the only real path to a life like that if you don't have the means to get on that track yourself. Plus, it's such a perilous one, not for everyone. My bil was lucky enough to serve at an allied base during peacetime - he still ended up half-deaf from all the live-fire drills.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

If anything, being in the military keeps driving me further to the left

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But if everyone got it no one would have a reason to join the military

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

The most desperate wouldn’t join, but plenty still would.

The bigger question is; if we were a smarter more generous country, would we need such a big military?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 16 points 6 days ago

I know a handful of military folks who are now doing so much better in their lives. Came from a shitty background, and now work IT or management.

Unfortunately, I also know a lot of military folks who didn't make it. Some are in prison. Some suffer from issues in society. Many still work for the military/government because they have no other skills.

The most common bond: they tell their kids not to join the military.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I feel like soldiers are a not great analogy here as they've literally signed over their lives and autonomy.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Soldiers are a great analogy because the American military is one of the most socialist endeavours in the world. Everything they need is tax-payer funded. It's incredible really.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Fascists hate socialism for others, but greedily extract from others.

Actual socialism is equal for all.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 1 points 5 days ago

Socialism is anti imperialism. Just because something is socialized doesn't make it socialism. If the military was socialists it would have cut the head off the military and formed a workers militia. No wars for oil or opium, no military bases all over the world.

The military itself isn't run for profit, but profits flow from military imperialism, which opens the door for financial I action and mass extraction and forced austerity for less developed countries.

If anything the military proves that such mass socialization is possible, which makes capitalism obsolete. But the military is not an example of socialism, don't muddy the water with goofy opinions. Words have meanings, politics has consequences. Stop trying to have takes, fight for worker internationalism instead

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Whereas the children are just missing their autonomy without signing it over?

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago
[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 6 days ago

Yeah when you are about to join a workers collective Karl Marx is waiting to hit you on the head with a comically large flyswatter

[–] plyth@feddit.org 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Mice die in mouse traps because Capitalists have turned their natural environment into a prison where the abundance of food is locked up to control the workers. Mice are just collateral damage.

Men die in work traps because they do not understand why the cheese is NOT free.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well if the rats had abundant food we'd get "A plague tale"

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

Only if you move the corn around and thus spread the fleas.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Dear corporations, is this why we can access your apps websites for free? You are not stealing our information, selling them to data brokers and advertisers, and weaponising our interests to vote against our own interests, do you?

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

Let's consider what's happening in Gaza with the hungry being shot. Let's then consider those in the US needing healthcare. Underying similarities and the opposite of socialism

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 6 days ago

Somewhere, a cow is mooing at the metaphor

[–] MercuryGenisus@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

Makes pretty good grilled cheese sandwiches

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago

The mouse trap exists to prevent the indigenous population (mice) from sharing in the bounty of their land, so the colonizers can hoard it all.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

Tell me more about this mouse economy.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Socialism has cool stuff because it is designed to kill you obviously lmao

[–] Jaded99@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago

Whose money goes into socialism? Which government has ever shared said money with the general public. Y'all haven't watched hunger games and it shows.

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