The worst record so far*
You cannot out tank my Wizards like that (2-12 record!)
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The Pistons make the Wizards look like the 96 Bulls
Ultimate tank off on 11/27 i can’t wait
They’ve won 4 basketball games since last season’s trade deadline, trust they will be the worst.
You also know Poole is going to randomly have a good 6-8 streak where the wizards start winning indirectly screwing them out the no.1 puck only for him to go back to shit again
Second highest paid coach don’t forget
Coaches don't usually do great their first year, especially with bad teams
Monty got away from Dominayton only to be stuck with a 10% worse version in Wiseman.
Poor guy.
Only 10%?
at least 300% worse
Monty Williams
I get the idea of drafting for talent over fit, but that really only works if the talent is enough to make fit irrelevant. Detroit just doesn’t have the talent for that and it’s made the roster a mess, which could potentially stunt the growth of all their young players.
I also didn’t like the Monty hire because a coach coming straight from a finals contender always seemed like a bad fit for a team full of young guys. And even if Ayton was part of the problem, it seemed like a bad sign that Monty alienated a good young player that was an important part of a finals run.
Unless someone makes a leap to legit stardom amidst the current mess, I’m not super optimistic about this current “core’s” future
Five lottery picks (not even counting Bagley or Wiseman since the Pistons didn't draft them) who can't shoot 3's is a recipe for disaster in today's NBA. Maybe Cunningham and Ivey can work themselves up to average+ shooters, but Hayes can't shoot at all and Thompson is somehow even worse than that. Having more than one non-shooter on the court at a time is a bad idea for a modern-day NBA offense, yet Thompson and Duren are probably Detroit's 2nd and 3rd best players.
I think it was an expensive mistake to throw $12M/year at Monty Williams when you know the team is going to be bad regardless, but it's not my money. Monty has always had a stronger rep as a developmental coach than a championship X and O's guy, which was probably the thinking in making a Godfather offer to him, to try and teach good habits and winning basketball even if it wasn't going to happen right away.
Thompson is young enough that we have no idea what kind of shooter he'll end up being, non-existent, solid, good, etc.
Kawhi, Jimmy Butler, and Lonzo Ball were all dudes with broken jump shots who were able to fix them and get better.
Butler and Ball are poor counter-examples since Butler has never fixed his shot (32% career 3P%) while Ball's release looked funky but he was never a bad shooter.
I said earlier in the season when they ran the starting 5 that it was going to be a problem, and that Monty will ruin this team...they still have a bunch of potential, but shit needs to be readjusted ASAP, put Ivey in at starting pg, do it already!
The current rebuild has a lot of really promising players with Cade, Ausar, Duren, Sasser, Stewart, Ivey. I think this is more about PTSD Pistons fans have had suffering through 2 garbage rebuilds after having a contending team for 7 years. Joe Dumars did some insane damage to the franchise with that Allen Iverson trade and Gordon + Villanueva signings
And this upcoming draft stinks
At least they're paying their coach a bazillion dollars.
Was there any realistic expectations not to be bad?
I really like the prospects of the Pistons in Cade, Duren, Ausar, Ivey and Sasser, but I'm not sure if I like them all together because the spacing on this team is some of the worst I've watched. Also having Bojan and Monte out severely hurts.
I'm actually quite shocked they have the worst record in the East this season. I thought they'd be well ahead of the Wizards and even the Hornets, ending up at around the 11-13 seed.
I really thought they would be better.
As a Suns fan I’m curious how Pistons fans view Monty so far.
Cooper Flag! You are a Piston!
Tanking works though! /s
If you aren't employed by the Pistons, please don't use "we." One of the cringiest things.
Anyway, the Pistons aren't tanking. They just fucking suck.
We will continue to speak how we want dumbass