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Nope.
The amount of people who don't travel rules is crazy. Like I get it. But how can you be so confidentially incorrect. This isn't a travel
Fr, when "well ackshully 🤓" goes wrong
r/confidentlyincorrect
I love seeing tiktoks and reels with plays like this and reading through all the old heads comments acting like they “know what a travel is”
Maybe people don’t know travel rules because only in the NBA Is this not a travel.
Kawhi literally learned this move from the WNBA lol
What level are you playing on? If you’re paying money please get a refund, because they’re clearly teaching the sport wrong.
Maybe those other leagues should learn the rules
lol. Even in a thread about people being confidently incorrect you took it the extra mile.
I thought maybe he traveled at 0:12 on the shot clock but I think it's OK to take the multiple steps as he hasn't terminated he legal dribble and isn't gathering. It looks like the gather dribble into a step-back but he doesn't actually gather. At best perhaps a carry if he moves his hand under the ball during the hesi but it's hard to see from this angle.
Because the rules used to be different
Yeah at the very least the fact that he's carrying the ball multiple times on the hesitation dribble used to be a travel. Now it's just part of a "bag"
Exactly. Back in the day, if you even spun the pivot foot too much, it’d be a travel. It’s gotten looser and looser as the game has evolved. Whether that’s a good or a bad thing, idk. I’m just saying that when I was a kid learning to play in the ‘90s from guys that learned to play in the ‘50s to ‘80s, that’s how I was taught.
Ditto for palming the ball. Allen Iverson and everyone after him wouldn’t have gotten away with most of their crossovers and hesi moves pre-‘90s. That’s a big part of why we think the old clips from the ‘50s and ‘60s look so goofy — they had much stricter enforcement of stricter rules.
The rules were not different in the 3-point arc era of basketball. There was a video someone posted a while ago where someone compiled footage dating back to Jordan in the 80s, where the pivot foot was lifted in this exact same manner.
The other thing that confuses people is that, in a triple threat position, if you start dribbling the ball, you actually can't lift your pivot foot before initiating your dribble. So folks are remembering the rule about not lifting the pivot foot, but applying it to the wrong basketball action.
If you lift the pivot foot before you start your dribble, it's a travel. But if you shoot or pass instead, it's not, as long as you do so before your pivot foot returns to the ground.
Fuckin KG getting it wrong and arguing about it through a segment with Candace Parker blew me away.
A jump stop, pump-fake, and step through was literally the first 'move' ever taught to me in elementary ball back in 1998.
The amount of people who don't travel rules is crazy.
Maybe it isn't technically a travel, but it was called like a travel until recently, for sure it was called a travel in the 90s.
Kawhi learned this move from the WNBA fun fact
I remember Kobe doing this a lot in his later years wouldn’t be surprised if he picked that up watching wnba games either
The fuck? He learn from Kobe. Kobe copy that from Jordan.
Step through in the 90s? Nope, didn't happen. Old heads still call that a traveling at the park.
The fuck? He learn from Kobe. Kobe copy that from Jordan.
Well ur arguing against kawhi himself lol
Yeah Kobe said he picked it up from Candace Parker IIRC
Candace dick Parker in your mouth
TIL
One thing about Kawhi he’s gonna hit that step through
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This is filthy as hell
The step through isn't a travel but earlier in the sequence he pulls off a questionable step back where he takes two steps and then dribbles again. How is that not a travel?
You can take as many steps as you want as long as the dribble is live. You can even do a little jig and a waltz!
There's no such thing as traveling while dribbling. So as long as he didn't pick up his dribble yet, it literally doesn't matter at all what kind of steps he takes.
So, would this be a travel if did a jump stopped and established a pivot instead? Because usually if you jump stop you have to come off and come down on two feet, although you can establish a pivot.
That’s not a bag. Its just awareness
Come back home to Toronto
Lovely hesi's man. I'd take every single one of them hook, line and sinker.
This is a Kobe’s move. You can go back to Kobe’s film and notice that Kobe does a lot of pump fakes and a step through later in his late career
Travel
European here so pardon my question but is this not travel on step through?
A lot of turnaround fades do the same thing, it's just much quicker. Dudes jump off the back foot after the front foot has already pushed off and giving some backward momentum. That's how some dudes can cover a lot of ground on it. A bunch of Kobe's fades are like that, but I'm sure Jordan and dudes before him did the same thing.
Why Wemby is so quick to jump, he needs to work on his synchronism. That’s an easy block for him.
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Holy hell.
There's always that one dumbass in the crowd that thinks this is a travel
The ol' reliable
It amazes me every time that people take their time to type "this is travel" or "how is this not a travel", but would not take that same amount of time to google NBA traveling rules and turning on the brain for a minute.
The dancing at the bench is the real highlight (and like the play, not a travel)
Looks like he’s playing with a kid in the driveway
This should be a travel. I know that it isn’t, NBA rulebook wise, but it should be. It just looks wrong.
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