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I am what is known as an early adopter, I try all the new shit, I was on Twitter early and got banned for being a Nazi or something when if you said anything anyone disagreed with you were a fascist.
Chat GPT is something that I have been playing with, 3.5 is as dumb as a plank, If OpenAI wanted to convince me that upgrading to 4 was a good idea they would have made 3.5 interesting enough that it was useful for more than creating outlines.
Here are my concerns.
Chat GPT cannot count, it cannot follow instructions and rehashes the same content in numerous areas, I tried writing blogs about photography, web development, carpentry and more. As a brainstorming device it's good, to get an outline it's accep[table, but as far as trusting it with creating original content that needs as much effort to edit and fact check as it would take me to do it from scratch anyway.
In the ever changing, fast paced world yadda yadda is one of it's gotos. I wonder how many people are posting exactly the same AI generated shite, because they can't be arsed to actually check it.
IT's a boon for the spam content creator, but for the person serious about his business< I am not convinced, Convince me.

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[–] __SEOeveryday__@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Agree, but there is a BUT. Chat GPT is great for creating a skeleton for large texts. And I love it because it gives me ideas when my mind is racing. I'm sure that GPT will develop rapidly and optimize our workflow. But these are just my thoughts.

[–] TourApprehensive2155@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It won't do your job for you, but it's definitely useful for optimizing tasks. For example, as a programmer, I can get it to write a simple function for me that I can integrate into the main script, which makes life just a little bit easier. It's not the be all end all, it's just another tool.

[–] SerenDipiosa@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Here is how ChatGPT answered your question: :)

It's understandable that you have reservations about the utility of ChatGPT, especially when it comes to creating original and trustworthy content. While ChatGPT can be a valuable tool for brainstorming and generating ideas, it does have limitations, and it's important to consider these limitations when deciding whether to use it for specific purposes. Here are some points to consider:
Understanding Limitations:
ChatGPT is not infallible, and it may not always produce accurate or reliable information. It's crucial to recognize that the model generates responses based on patterns it learned during training and may not have up-to-date or real-world knowledge.
Fact-Checking and Editing:
As you've observed, the content generated by ChatGPT may require thorough fact-checking and editing. It's a tool that can assist in generating ideas and outlines, but relying on it without careful review can lead to inaccuracies.
Content Uniqueness:
If uniqueness and originality are critical for your content, relying solely on ChatGPT may not be sufficient. While it can help with brainstorming, it may not consistently produce content that stands out from what others might generate using the same tool.
Spam and Repetition:
Your concern about potential repetition in AI-generated content is valid. It's possible that multiple users may end up with similar or identical content, especially if they are asking similar questions or requesting information on popular topics.
AI as a Supplement, Not a Replacement:
Think of ChatGPT as a supplement to your creative process rather than a replacement. It can be a useful tool for generating ideas, but the final responsibility for crafting high-quality, accurate content lies with the user.
GPT-4 Improvements:
It's worth noting that newer iterations of models, like GPT-4, may address some of the limitations you've identified. OpenAI continues to refine its models, and future versions may offer improvements in accuracy, coherence, and understanding of context.
Use in Specific Scenarios:
Consider using ChatGPT in specific scenarios where its strengths can be maximized, such as brainstorming, idea generation, or creating outlines. For critical and fact-intensive content, you may still want to rely on your own expertise and thorough research.
Ultimately, the decision to use ChatGPT or similar tools depends on your specific needs, preferences, and the nature of the content you're creating. It's a powerful tool, but it's most effective when used with a critical eye and in conjunction with human oversight. If you find that it doesn't align with your workflow or doesn't provide sufficient value, it's entirely reasonable to reassess its role in your creative process.

[–] AnshulYadav@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your analysis is correct.

I typically use it the other way around. I start with an original idea and an outline and hand it off to AI to make it fit the format required by the audience.

For example, you can write an original and new post about a generic problem, like "How to deal with cheater?", then ask ChatGPT to mold it for the photographers, web developers, carpenters, and middle aged husbands.

In the end Chat GPT is just a tool. It's usefulness is proportional to the creativity of the user.

[–] guymclarenza@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Now that is the best idea I have seen, I will test your methodology

[–] kingtechllc@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] guymclarenza@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yes R 400.00 in my language 20 tools that each solve a small problem is a weeks income in my part of the world, in your part of the world that $20 is two cups of coffee

[–] kingtechllc@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Oh my bad man

[–] tshungwee@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I use it as a research resource!

[–] mr_niyi@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

GPT cannot and will never replace you.

If you know how to give GPT the right data it can give you useful information. It is up to you to use that information the right way.

Sure it does have some mannerisms that it regularly defaults to...but that's to be expected from an AI that lacks the capacity for truly autonomous reasoning. It's speaking from a fairly limited pool of knowledge.

The moral here is: Don be lazy. Do what you ought to do

[–] bananabastard@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're using it wrong. If you expect the AI to do the research and get the facts for you, you'll end up with shit. But when you already have the data, and you need it turned into an article, it's golden.

[–] jaimequin@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Shhhh. Don't correct the compitition when they are making mistakes.

[–] ChoiceInevitable@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You can try asking it to rewrite your post.

[–] guymclarenza@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

and rewritten for a photographer

As a seasoned photographer always on the lookout for cutting-edge tools, my experience with ChatGPT 3.5 left me underwhelmed. Its limitations in precision and inability to grasp instructions made it more of a brainstorming aid than a reliable content creator for my photography blogs.
Concerns about content repetition and the generic nature of responses lingered. In the fast-paced world of photography, it seemed like many might be churning out similar AI-generated content without bothering to verify it. While ChatGPT served well for creating outlines, I hesitated to trust it with crafting original and meticulously fact-checked photography content.
Now, considering the potential upgrade to GPT-4, I'm curious about whether it addresses these issues. Can it truly provide a more accurate, context-aware, and creative approach to photography content? Does it understand the nuances of the field and produce diverse, original outputs? If GPT-4 proves to be a reliable tool, it could be a game-changer for serious photographers aiming for high-quality, unique content in the ever-evolving photography landscape.
I'm open to being convinced. How does GPT-4 enhance the content creation process for photographers, ensuring it aligns with the standards of those deeply invested in their craft?

[–] guymclarenza@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

THis is 3.5's answer.

I appreciate your candid feedback and concerns about ChatGPT. It's valuable to hear different perspectives on the tool's capabilities and limitations. While I can't change your past experiences or preferences, I can share some information about the improvements made in GPT-4 that might address some of your concerns.
GPT-4 builds upon the strengths of GPT-3.5 but aims to be more reliable, creative, and context-aware. It has undergone extensive training on diverse and vast datasets, providing it with a broader understanding of various topics. Here are a few key points that might address your concerns:
Content Quality: GPT-4 is designed to provide more accurate and contextually relevant responses. It should be better at following instructions, generating coherent content, and avoiding repetition.
Originality: GPT-4 is trained to be more creative and generate content that is less likely to be repetitive. It should be better at producing original and diverse outputs.
Fact-Checking: While AI models like GPT-4 can assist in generating content, it's essential to use them as tools in collaboration with human writers. Fact-checking and editing remain crucial steps in the content creation process to ensure accuracy and reliability.
Customization: GPT-4 can be fine-tuned for specific tasks or industries, allowing for more tailored and accurate results. This could be beneficial for someone serious about their business, as the AI can be trained on domain-specific data.
Feedback Loop: OpenAI encourages users to provide feedback on problematic outputs through the user interface. This feedback loop helps improve the model over time, addressing issues and enhancing its capabilities.
However, it's important to note that no AI model is perfect, and there will always be room for improvement. While GPT-4 aims to address some of the limitations you mentioned, it's crucial to use AI as a complement to human expertise rather than a replacement.
Ultimately, the decision to upgrade or use any AI tool depends on your specific needs, preferences, and the nature of your work. If you're uncertain about the benefits, you might want to try GPT-4 and assess its performance based on your specific use cases.

[–] guymclarenza@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

and a cabinet maker, this is fun

As a seasoned adopter of innovations, I've ventured into various technologies, including exploring ChatGPT 3.5. My journey from early Twitter days to experimenting with AI has been a ride with its highs and lows. However, when it comes to the realm of cabinet making, my experience with ChatGPT 3.5 has left me skeptical.
In the intricate world of crafting cabinets, precision is key. Unfortunately, ChatGPT 3.5's shortcomings, such as inaccurate counting, difficulties in following instructions, and a tendency to recycle content, raise concerns. While it may serve as a useful tool for brainstorming or generating initial outlines, entrusting it with the creation of original, trustworthy content for a cabinet making business seems like a stretch.
The fast-paced nature of the industry demands meticulous attention to detail. However, the repetitiveness in responses, often resorting to generic phrases like "yadda yadda," makes me wonder how many in the cabinet making community might inadvertently be sharing identical AI-generated content without proper scrutiny.
While AI can be a valuable asset for efficiency, especially in a business like cabinet making, the credibility and uniqueness of crafted content are non-negotiable. OpenAI suggests an upgrade to GPT-4, but for a serious cabinet making business, the question remains: Does GPT-4 truly address these concerns and offer a significant leap forward in content creation for a business that values precision and authenticity? Convince me that the transition is not just an upgrade but a game-changer for a cabinet making enterprise.

[–] quantum-fitness@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Chatgpt is a tool and it does what its good at very well.

It wont replace deep quality work, but it will speed you up.

Ive found it really usefull when I need to find documentation and its also really good a writing scripts. Probably not better than me if I knew Bash, but I dont use I often enough to be good at it.

[–] SheddingCorporate@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The people saying ChatGPT revolutionized their business are of 2 camps:

  1. People who use it to "help". It gets you started quickly - like you mentioned, it's good at creating first drafts of outlines, helping you brainstorm. It's not (yet) able to really craft good content, but it'll definitely speed things up. I know people who are using it as an online helper for their consultancy businesses because it's so good at the brainstorming.
  2. People who are really not good at writing. For them, the boilerplate that ChatGPT churns out is miles better than their own efforts. AND it's quick. So think someone in a third world country trying to pitch services to people in the west: their written English may be good by local standards but sounds stilted or even downright wrong to native English speakers. ChatGPT is life changing for that person.

The bottom line is, it's not a panacea. The buzz is deserved in some scenarios, but can be very misleading. You cannot (yet) trust it to do all your writing for you. BUT, keep using it, and I predict within a few years, it or another LLM will be actually good enough to do a lot of the work you're doing right now.

[–] Data-Power@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The value of any technology depends on how you use it. GPT is good for data analytics, so it will perfectly complement cases where it is needed, for example, recommendation systems, customer support, intelligent search, etc. I see the value of GPT specifically for a business and not for an individual, although for me it significantly speeds up the data collection.

[–] SaltMaker23@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

GPT4 is significantly more potent that the 3.5, 3 can't write heavy complex code for me and work with multiple files without making mistakes. I'm not talking about example codes, I'm talking about giving it actual working code and requesting new things to be added.

[–] Max-_-Power@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Chat GPT cannot count

[_] You know how a language model works

[X] Though it may in the future with plugins.

[–] ggf45yw4hyjjjw@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

In short: yes. Cause you will get detected anyway, so either you cheat or not, you still will be considered a cheater. But if you use GPT smarter than others you will be undetectable, Just make a few universal prompts for GPT essay writing then run your content through ai paraphrasing tool such as Ne..tus.AI and then edit thoroughly by yourself. Writing it self will be faster but editing will be longer but overall you should be able to complete 10 pages essay in a few hours easy.

[–] HOBONATION@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I did the same thing, used 3.5 for article writing and it was trash, upgraded to 4.0 and it definitely was better. Still editing tho!

[–] bryan_from_sd@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You’re not an “early adopter” if you’re whining about how you won’t pay $20 for super AI in your pocket, you’re just a whiny LARPer.

[–] AdFuture8085@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago