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[–] ChildrenHalveTraffic@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

How Benitez's triumphant homecoming turned sour

1 win in 13 games, there, I wrote the article for you BBC. No need to thank me!

[–] severedfragile@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Sometimes I wonder why anyone reads anything at all.

[–] TobyHalpert@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's the third paragraph in the article.

Perhaps there's more to the stories of the people in the game than just numbers.

[–] ChildrenHalveTraffic@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, like old scores to be settled at the Dell. Scores like 1 nil and 2 all that have happened in previous years.

[–] ThereWillBeGoals@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is one maxim of /r/soccer.

If a headline has "How" in the title, there will be at least one snarky comment in the replies oversimplifying the point of the article.

[–] Oggie243@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty common all round this site. Trying to be smart by being deliberately stupid.

[–] _cumblast_@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Pedants are the most irritating contigent of our species.

[–] DustyBlackmon@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] _cumblast_@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I'm not a mod and never have been. Never will be, either.

[–] realsomalipirate@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

There's not a bigger insult in the world, so you better be careful throwing out that accusation.

[–] thatguyad@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As opposed to those who seek Reddit fame?

[–] _cumblast_@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Never sought it, i wouldn't know.

[–] ramaras@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

They had a good squad in 2021-22 with Coudet, but many of those players are gone and they replaced them poorly imo. Cannot rely on a 36yo Aspas any more!

[–] UpvoteForGlory@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is something incredibly rotten in Celta Vigo. You get the feeling they have underperformed for years, and should be higher in the table. But their signings in the last few years has been mostly awful, and some internal issues with players doesnt make it easier. Having sold their two best players, and building the team around a 36 year old, now it feels like the team is just bad.

[–] celsotteokbokki@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of the explanations for Monchi's downfall apply even more starkly to Luís Campos.

[–] aloobatata@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. What do you think are the reasons for Monchi’s downfall? Or if you have any articles or links you could share.

[–] celsotteokbokki@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

He was one of the first DoFs to properly embrace data analysis and built an impressive scouting team and process. Some of it was reportedly still quite rustic though (as an example, one of his favourite methods was simply building a best XI of each league and going from there - I've heard this discussed on a podcast, probably one of the Athletic ones?) and I think as times moved on other teams caught up through more sophisticated uses of data and their own creative recruitment strategies.

[–] ProudhPratapPurandar@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Benitez sets up the team well, but he's been awful at game management this season

[–] manualex16@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, he can get match going into his favor 80 minutes in, but they collapse in the ending of the games.

[–] ImGonnaImagineSummit@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Collapse is putting it lightly, they're usually winning and then compeltely capitulate.

Losing to a late winner against RM is nothing to be ashamed of but being a goal or even 2 goals ahead into the 80th minute and still losing is something else.

[–] IntellectualDweeb@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The changes he made against us almost bordered on arrogance, and played a pretty significant part in our comeback. They should've won that game but due to the bad in-game management from Rafa they didn't.

[–] dogefc@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

If DCL/Doucoure didn’t get injured there’s a good chance Rafa would still be our manager now. Funny old game football

[–] WillitoBam@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Most overrated manager of all time. Bar none.

[–] thatguyad@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Any manager who's wins a cup with your disaster area of a club should earn respect.

[–] ChrisWood4BallonDor@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It is crazy how he is still defended. Average with Napoli and Newcastle and almost acceptable with Chelsea - sprinked in there is ruining one of the best Inter sides of all time, taking a European quality Everton side to a relegation battle, failing in China and now showing his true colours again in Spain.

[–] thatguyad@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He got chewed up and spat out by three different toxic clubs/fanbases. Not surprised if he's lost his spark.

[–] NCL-NYC@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Celta, Everton and Dailan?

[–] ChrisWood4BallonDor@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Only losing your job after a 13 game run that featured one measly win and included a drubbing from your closest rivals and a 5-2 defeat at home to Watford is not being 'spat out'. That's being given every opportunity.

[–] earbleedingcountry@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Waiting for the Liverpool and Newcastle fans to flood in and start pointing the finger at Celta Vigo fans any minute now...

[–] SoloArtist91@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yikes, I had no idea how much of an impact VAR has had on their season so far.

[–] meganev@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Real sliding door moment for Rafa refusing to leave Everton to come back to us post takeover. I'm glad he didn't. But he must regret that move now