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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

People who fly in planes...

People who drive cars...

People who work for corporations...

People who eat imported off-season fruits and vegetables...

People who have children...

There are thousands of personal choices everyone could make to make the world a better place, and none of them will be effective on their own. We're all thoroughly fucked because the rich control the world and they think they will be able to ride out the collapse on their private islands and gated farms. Nothing you and I can do will stop the apocalypse, so stop being judgemental about choices other people make, and just enjoy the ride.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with you but you are also undermining direct action.

People should be cutting all of that shit where ever possible

Obviously life is life but drinking water out of plastic bottles when 95% of US has safe tap water is peak braindead consumerism

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

choosing to shop in a different aisle in the grocery store is not direct action

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[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I used to think like you. But then I released that you aren't gong to successfully convince billions of people to fix climate change through personal choices and carbon footprint efficiency.

Collective action to change government policy to make climate pollution uneconomical is how it changes.

Maybe that policy makes meat a luxury commodity and you get what you want, but human will is too weak to assume that people will stop eating meat out of choice.

The concept of our personal carbon footprint was one of BPs most successful ever marketing campaigns to avoid their accountability.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I agree and I'm not even vegan. Pork and poultry are both a lot less bad for the environment, and afaik it's not at all hard to avoid beef in terms of cost and availability

[–] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Climate change is animal well-being, just on a global scale.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I see this line on internet a lot: animal farmers don't care about the welfare of their animals.

I know too many beef farmers to think that.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (23 children)

Jfc the vegan extremism in tech shows so hard on Lemmy it makes me both embarrassed to be in tech, and on Lemmy.

Fuck off. Feeling guilt (or worse yet, telling others to feel guilty) for eating beef when there exist billionaires with private jets is beyond absurd. Especially when we consider food availability, cost efficacy of feeding the populations...

Get your head out of your asshole.

You're no better than the Christofascists telling 'the gays they'll go to hell,' ramming ideology down peoples throats by way of guilt and shame. Exact same ideological posturing. Its abhorrant; it's pathetic.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I don't think it's irrational to be critical of decisions just because there are worse evils. Whataboutisms don't solve anything, because you basically invalidate any argument with "but rich people have private jets".

You can have more of a bearing on your fellow man than you do on corporate untouchables, so if you want to see change, start with the small stuff.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you have a moment to discuss our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?

🙄

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I'm good thanks

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

agriculture is also contributing to human accelerated climate change, jsyk.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. Let's try to reduce agriculture too. Let's see what most of the farmed food is used for. Oh. It's used to feed cows for beef.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 month ago

Lol... I doubt that opinion is that unpopular but you can try the same set up with people who

Who fly for tourism Drinking bottled water at home Drive SUV Live in a large houses without sufficient head count

That ought to get people properly triggered. Beef is a low hanging fruit and even most beef eaters know this. Just eat less of it.

It's not so binary, so I disagree with the premise. Ofc I upvoted it. 👍

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

You ain't wrong 😒

[–] npdean@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People care only enough to criticise corporations, no personal accountability

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The carbon footprint is a creation of BP’s marketing wing.

Personal accountability is important, but don’t let it distract you from the fact that corporations have worked for decades to ensure their profitability at our communal expense.

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[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like a decade ago, I got to see Paul Hawken speak. His organization reviews the science to determine which methods are most impactful for reducing climate change. Here's their list: https://drawdown.org/solutions/table-of-solutions. The idea really stuck with me - and I was surprised by the impact of some activities.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is eating the rich at the top?

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, but sadly not vegan.

[–] ExFed@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Judging from the comments, this is truly an unpopular opinion. I wonder why it's got so many downvotes ... It is what it says on the tin.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One could argue the kinds of posts perfect for this community are all rage bait.

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[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 1 month ago

You can have different degrees of giving a shit, though. Like you can give some shit, just not enough to quit beef.

[–] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks for not eating beef then! You’re saving the planet. It’s a bit cooler outside today, the effects of your sacrifice are already noticeable. What would we do without people like … oh wait, gotta go, my steak‘s almost done.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I eat beef and care deeply about a sustainable biosphere. The future depends on Forages. https://youtu.be/bDnZ-oNjatY

Top Soil depletion should also be very scary to people, its quickly running out via current mono-cropping industrial farming. The only way to restore top soil is via ruminants

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