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Embiid has mastered the art of ~~flopping~~ drawing fouls on drives.

Here's the top 10

  1. Embiid—19.8%

  2. Thomas—13.9%

  3. JJJ—13.3%

  4. Dame—12.9%

  5. Paolo—12.0%

  6. Trae—12.0%

  7. LeVert—11.4%

  8. Jalen Green—11.3%

  9. Hayward—11.2%

  10. Giannis—11.1%

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[–] OKC2023champs@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Embiid gets 3.4 FTs a game on 8.6 drives a game.

SGA gets 3.0 FTs a game on 21 drives a game.

[–] bkbeam@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Weird how SGA's game is the exact same as last year, yet his foul calls plummeted

[–] Sokkawater10@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There’s less people packed in the paint to foul him when playing OKC because their perimeter shooters have improved

[–] jocro@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It def is a little of that, but he's also night to night just not getting the same whistle. Is what it is, and should even out a bit over the season.

[–] bkbeam@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

More like he forgot to compliment the refs this year

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[–] IzaacLUXMRKT@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's getting fouled on almost every drive, they just straight up aren't calling them

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[–] OKC2023champs@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dude could average 35 a night on high efficiency with the middy/drive game. In this day and age that’s wild to see. SGA averages more drives per game than anyone in the last 10+ years by far

[–] Overall-Palpitation6@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Ja Morant...

[–] GotKarprar@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] egirldestroyer69@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Its because they normally try to make the shot instead of pure theatrics

[–] GotKarprar@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Nah Luka definitely foul baits he just isn’t getting it called anymore this year. Although idk if it’s rly baiting since he’s getting hacked everytime he drives

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[–] Angelic_Phoenix@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Refs obviously trained their "anti-flop" measures on some of the big offenders from last year. Its obvious if you watched him last year vs now that the same exact drives that make contact are now no-calls

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[–] vthinlysliced@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Drives per game isn't a good stat to determine this sort of thing. They always come up but drives aren't very high up on the list of plays likely to lead to FTs.

The highest are things like put-backs, lobs, post-ups, and dunks (you're standing under the basket and someone passes to you). So yeah big physical players/teams tend to be higher in these and get more FTs despite not driving as much.

[–] Unlikely-Painter4763@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That says more about how SGA gets reffed than Embiid.

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[–] durablewaffle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People really wake up and the first thing on their mind is Joel Embiid shooting FTs. Y’all are some world class haters

[–] Alex_Sander077@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

People like you really wake up and get triggered by literal stats

[–] PensiveinNJ@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Embiid uses his size, strength and athleticism to bully his way to the rim and gets fouled a lot. News at 11.

More interesting to me JJJ, I didn't realize his game included driving to the rim so much.

Gordon Hayward is another interesting one.

[–] Super_Log5282@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You think Embiid gets fouled more than prime Shaq?

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[–] SandyMandy17@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Apparently SGA just doesn’t get fouled anymore despite leading the league in drives by a mile

[–] Padulsky21@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cam’s sample size is much smaller bc he got injured but he’s genuinely an insane talent at getting to the line. Did it last year too.

Can’t wait for him to get back from injury man…

[–] HeyWhatsUpTed@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I just feel like it isn’t gonna ever happen for him for real. Just a gut feeling

[–] Lets_go_Stros2017@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What do you mean😰

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[–] LegalLetterhead4344@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm curious on Luka's stats this season

[–] Heavy_Sample6756@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Saw Embiid against my Cavs. The dude is an absolute troll!

[–] Limp-Crow9800@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Should name him big baby embiid wind blows and the man is hitting the floor

[–] HisExcellency20@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This sub cannot help themselves, lol. Sometimes they cannot even wait for something to happen the haters just post a random "Embiid haters gather here" post.

r/NFL doesn't even hate Watson this much.

[–] Select_Bite1557@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What I don’t like is he flails too much. A little contact then he goes flying into the stands

[–] grui86@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I wonder how bad Lebron’s fouls per drive are compared to embiid

[–] Ass-Packer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Embiid plays disgusting terrible basketball

[–] resipsaloquitor5@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Maybe it's because people foul him a lot

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[–] thelennybeast@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Where are you sourcing this from?

I want to because LeBron has always been dramatically under statistically on how many free throws he should be shooting by those metrics.

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[–] Dat_Boi_John@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

And that's why he always flames out in the 2nd round in the playoffs. Those calls don't get rewarded in the playoffs even for MVPs.

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[–] ShoegazeKaraokeClub@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Ok i dont have anything to say to defend this one so thats my foul baiting goat right there

[–] m4ps@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It’s unbelievable that his bullshit run into the defender and throw up (what is not really) a shot works. This league is a joke in so many ways but I still love it.

[–] MumenriderPaulReed69@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Cause you can’t stop him! Too big too fast or he will shoot it over you

[–] Surflover12@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Cause thats literally the only way to stop embiid lol

[–] HughStar@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He’s such a whiner as well.

[–] BrokeHorcrux@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What's strange is, people call out and think of LeBron as some flopping foul merchant, but instead his free throw rate shows that he needs to flop more, since refs are blind. Teams challenge refs to call a foul, instead of trying to defend legally.

[–] AmbitionExtension184@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That’s what winning an mvp does to someone. Embiid has always been a flopper but this season is at a new level and he’s getting every flop

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[–] HOWARDDDDDDDDDD@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Fix this shit

[–] eagles1990@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That's why he's the MVP. You can't stop him (Unless you are Al Horford...SMH)

[–] _MakingModernMen_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Embiid is an all time foul merchant. Historic

[–] Theopocalypse@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They need to do something about this. Guy flops on almost every shot.

[–] LoonyBunBennyLava@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I wonder what Harden's stats were. Google searches show prime Harden drawing 11.5% on his 3 PA in 2019, but don't show his total drawn foul % on drives.

[–] Dr_Kappa@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Watch the games. If the opponent didn’t throw three bodies on him every time he touches the ball in the paint, he would be hitting on 80+% of those shots. It’s the only way to prevent giving him a free layup every time down the court

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[–] MorryD@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I cannot believe for a second that Giannis only draws fouls on 1 in 9 drives. Wonder where this data comes from.

[–] durablewaffle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This data seems wrong honestly

[–] shotcaIler@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

sixers fans questioning the data and pointing at other players instead of realizing their dudes a boring foul merchant

[–] MorryD@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Embiid gets fouls on entry passes lol. Giannis gets them mostly on drives. They both draw a similarly insane amount of fouls. Surely an eastern conference fan is aware of this.

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[–] trinquin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If Giannis had the same whistle Embiid has. The average NBA game would take 25 minutes longer and he taking 30 FT a game.

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