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[–] QCWiggins@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Sinnerandsmoke@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think Tom was specifically talking about qb play and making some extrapolations from that. he’s been talking about disliking changes (defenseless receiver, lifting of number regulations, etc) for years.

The game is changing. I’d like less ticky tack penalty but other wise I’m good. The people complaining about the game going “soft” are irritating.

[–] jakeba75@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I disagree. Brady has made "game has gone soft" comments before, but I think these are literally about mediocrity. I think he sees it all connected. When hes says players don't work on the fundamentals of protecting themselves anymore, hes implying there other fundamentals they also arent working on.

This is the 4th straight year scoring has gone down, and game threads here are filled with comments about shitty play. This a different complaint than "game gone soft."

[–] bayesed_theorem@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you ask me, I think we're seeing the negative impact of how insane contracts for star players have gotten in comparison to the overall cap. You can't have 2 players contributing 60+ million to the cap and expect a team to still be stellar IMO. Chiefs are a great example this year.

[–] spammusubi0808@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think contracts are a problem in what’s going on with play. The top end contracts got bloated, but almost all of the middle class is gone now and replaced with rookie contract and vet min guys.

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[–] Musclesturtle@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Players definitely don't try and protect themselves. Look how Tua just fell over like a limp toddler several times in a row and now he probably can't remember his middle.name anymore.

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[–] N7_Evers@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If not soft, than what would you call it? The rules are actively being changed to discourage and/or negate play styles similar to Ray Lewis, Rodney Harrison and Ronnie Lott (Brady’s words). Defense is being hamstrung and handicapped seemingly more and more every season.

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[–] PreciousRoy78@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steel cage match at Wrestlemania XL.

It is happening in Philly so Gritty can get involved in any cheap finish required

[–] Sinnerandsmoke@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Dude a mascot king of the mountain or whatever it’s called would be awesome

[–] GxCrabGrow@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I blame Tom for a lot of why the league is the way it is. Can’t touch the QB anymore

[–] d9849468@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he didn't exist do you think the rules would've never changed?

[–] GxCrabGrow@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really think the QB rules wouldn’t be as crazy as they are. We have QBs putting up RB numbers and they aren’t allowed to be touched. Players are scared to hit them when they run, it’s ridiculous

[–] d9849468@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think you can insert any top QBs name there and say hes the reason why the league made rules to keep QBs safer. Dont think its fair to single out brady cause he had the gall to be an elite QB during the time where the league was growing massively with the rise of the all the new media platforms etc etc. The league would've made new rules with the existence of any elite QB playing

It is what it is. The sport is astronomically more entertaining when elite QBs are healthy and playing well, and available to play in big games during the reg season and then around for the playoffs. It isnt rocket science to understand why some rules were made to keep those dudes on the field.

[–] matthewryan12@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lions fans just don’t see it that way, Tom.

[–] nautica5400@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As great as Barry was, he doesn't really have much credibility against a mind like brady who was a QB and had to analyze all assets of the game and elevated his teams. Not to mention the fact brady played until he was 45 while Barry retired early. Guys like Brady, Manning, etc are just on another level and agree with their takes when u look around the league.

[–] Donttaketh1sserious@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

As great as a potential GOAT RB was, he doesn’t really have much credibility because he didn’t really learn anything because he was just a runningback and Tom Brady was a quarterback. Not to mention Barry Sanders only played for 10 years in the NFL, so that means he was barely in the league. Only QBs like Brady, Manning etc with 18-20+ years of experience know anything about the NFL.

that’s what you sound like to me lol

[–] MrFlags69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Statistically speaking Brady is 100% right from the quarterbacks play for 2023. It’s been way down.

[–] Skolcialism@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok but is it just Pickett killing the averages

[–] -ci_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My pops is a diehard Steelers fan (how the fuck did that happen?) and thinks Pickett is the shit for some reason. I'm gonna show him this comment to piss him off next time I see him. Thank you lol

[–] Zero_Griever@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds more like Brady still trying to be relevant.

[–] PlebasRorken@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I kinda doubt Tom fucking Brady is ever gonna struggle for relevancy, big dawg.

true, he will only struggle for relevancy in his family

[–] endofthered01674@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The current crop of QBs is not at the Brady/Manning level in general. I know neither of those two guys were the athletes that some of the current top guys are, but I imagine Manning and Brady having aneurysms seeing the carelessness with which a lot of the league treats the ball.

[–] 1234567791@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mahomes, Hurts, Lamarr, even Tua and CJ Stroud. Herbert is very fun to watch. Even guys like Purdy and Geno are well worth the Sunday sit down. I think Brady was speaking more to lack of accountability due to rules that can create mediocrity. I also think mediocrity is the wrong word. The league has more talent than ever.

Are you taking Philip Rivers and Eli over the first three I named?

Not to mention Aaron Rodgers has played in both eras.

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[–] Ill_Pineapple1482@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

stupid take. mahomes is literally the greatest qb to ever touch the turf

[–] EternallyEuphoric@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aight relax. Can't make guarantees this early in his career.

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[–] incompleteremix@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] anon135797531@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mahomes is just as good as Brady/manning

[–] accountforeddit@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Mahomes is just as good as Brady/manning

Delusion and recency bias + media overhype + modern era NFL has gotten to you.

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[–] SpacemanSpliffLaw@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In general, these guys are such athletic freaks now, that they never learned to read a defense or really learned the game. They didn't have to.

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[–] jtsarracino@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Strong disagree. Mac Jones-level talent was considered a solid, even good QB back in the late 2000s and early 2010s (see David Gerard, Rex Grossman, Jay Cutler, Chad Pennington, Alex Smith, etc).

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[–] Norcine@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Objectively he’s also right. This year has been full of incredibly sloppy play.

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[–] PossiblyShibby@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Common Brady L.

[–] PracticalAd8761@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tom Brady has no valid opinion about mediocrity lmao. He was the most pampered and protected QB in the leagues history.

[–] Arel203@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone with the sheer physical traits required to play in the NFL these days. The height and build of a player are sometimes more important than their raw talent.

We've reached such a weird genetic requirement to play at the NFL level that we're obviously going to have a lot of mediocrity mixed in with actual elite players.

It's why elite players even exist. There's plenty of people with raw talent, but maybe 5% of them hit the genetic thresholds required to ever play at the NFL level. When those guys actually get found, they're special.

So yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all why there's a lot of straight-up bad (mediocre is just being nice) players in the NFL these days.

[–] agk927@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no quarterback playing in the league right now where it's like, "yeah, he's gonna be the best someday"

[–] number7nocheese@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noone will ever play like TB, just like there will ever be a player better than Michael Jordan.

That being said Jordan Love will be the 3rd HoF QB consecutively coming out of Green Bay.

[–] agk927@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That being said Jordan Love will be the 3rd HoF QB consecutively coming out of Green Bay.

Which to me is amazing.

[–] NEpatsfan64@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

“Goff’s 6 turnovers in three weeks is anything but mediocre!! >:(“ -barry sanders

[–] Hockystr17@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

LOUD NOISES

[–] PeaberryCoffee@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I was in my early twenties watching the Lions play the Vikings in the thanksgiving game in 1995. Barry Sanders uniform came untucked. He was stuffing them back in while the announcers were blathering on. They kept the camera rolling and when Barry, my favorite player all-time, btw, had his uniform nice and tight, I watched his teammate take a can of nonstick cooking spray and lather his jersey and pants with it. The announcer started to make a comment but quickly shut his mouth. They cut away and into the dust bins of history it went.

[–] PuffaloPhil@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yugoslavian women literally use Tom Brady as a dildo.

Wait, what are we talking about?

[–] ZellNorth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone else think Aaron Rodgers response to Brady’s comments is kinda funny considering he got hurt in his first game on his new team playing the most protected position in the game? Lol

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[–] SentientPolk@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Injures, it’s that simple, there’s mediocrity cause stars are hurt left right and center

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[–] Milkusa@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We’re in the Tween Age for Quarterbacks.

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[–] Hookerbait@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Aaron Rodgers is a that. You're a QB, dude, not even a real football player... easy to talk about how soft the game is when you're protected like a roll of Charmin in bubble wrap by every rule in the book.

[–] PsychoWarper@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He didnt really throw much shade at Tom outside I guess the teams he once played for which isnt really shade at Tom.

Barely just kinda says he thinks the current NFL is great especially the Lions.

[–] Gabaloo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think defenses are just catching up to the offensive boom we've had for the last several years.

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