Giddey should be top 15
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Jayson Tatum should be up there.
I would put Banchero above Mobley
Darius Garland high asf
OPs list isn’t too crazy but I’d put him below Sengun and above Herro
Sengun gotta be top 5
I disagree with a few things but honestly pretty solid list
Gimme Jalen Johnson on this list
Garland be fooling yall
mobley should be two spots lower.
Why scottie and banchero below sengun and herro
because they’re worse than sengun and herro
Because Sengun has been an absolute beast this year - look at his advanced numbers, he’s one of the most valuable guys in the league so far
Barnes is 9th in the entire nba in EPM which is the golden standard of capture all advanced stats. Sengun is great too but he’s 19th. Scottie just brings so much defensively on top of what Sengun does. He’s been an animal on that end.
I’d put Giddey in cam Thomas’ place tbh
Chet should be #3
I think it is close, of course, but I’d like to hear y’all’s arguments for Hali over Ant. For me, his advantage on the defensive side of the ball makes me rate Ant higher despite how great Hali is on offense.
He’s a better scorer than he needs to be compared to his generational (maybe) passing and playmaking, being the engine of the #1 offense in the NBA, on top of being one of the best three point shooters in the league
I wouldn’t argue too much if someone would take Ant over him but Hali is just insane to start out this year
basically my thoughts for Hali over ANT. The effeciency and playmaking ability combined with lack of turnovers is insane. Also Haliburton's defense is underrated. He averages 1 steal and 0.7 blocks a game (nuts for a guard). Last year he averaged basically 2 steals a game.
His defense is fucking terrible. Have you watched the Pacers play?
Hali is a disaster of a defender. Evaluating a point guard by steals and blocks is peak "I don’t watch them play" evaluation. Allen Iverson, one of my favorite players ever, lead the league in steals for three straight years. He was one of the worst defenders in the league. Some high steal players like CP3 are good defenders, but a lot of them are terrible.
Herro over holmgren is a disastrous pick
paolo way too low
I think Herro is way too high.
Herro above Barnes?!? lol no.
It’s still bad, just not as bad as your list yesterday
Cam Thomas should be above rj
I’d put Trey Murphy above a few of those guys
Chet should be #1
Jalen green should be top 10
If LaMelo had the whistle of the 3 dudes in front of him, he would easily be number one
Haliburton hardly gets the whistle lol
If zion got the whistle he's supposed to get he'd be clear number 1
Herro is egrigous
Can't believe there hasn't been more comments on this one. His best quality is to spark a winning streak when he gets hurt
Ant number one
Sengun is much better than Garland and arguably better than zion rn
Now that's a wild take
Well for zion i dont know if its a wild take especially if you consider availability as a skill too. Zion sits at 127 games vs senguns 161 while the latter was drafted in 2021
This is just recency bias. Sengun has never showed production on Zion's level, even if that's mostly due to how to offense has used him. You have a point with injuries but regardless through those 127 to 161 games there's a gap.
Come back to his argument at the end of the season.
First one of these lists I’ve seen give Sengun the proper respect
I'd this saying if Toronto called up Miami and offered Barnes for Herro, thar Miami would say no? That's so absurd
Also how is Garland at 5 over all these players