Pepeloveshimself22

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As a head coach, of coaches with a minimum of 185 games, Silas has the worst record of all time. He went 59-177, .250 winning pct. with the Rockets. This year, the Rockets are at a respectable .500 (yes I am aware this level of FA spending didn't happen during any of the Silas years and players like Sengun have improved considerably (though part of that is player development too)). But in 3 seasons with the Rockets, a young ascending team, the team meagerly improved each year (17 wins to 20, to 22). To further counter the rebuttal of the depleted roster argument, even with Harden on the team for those first 9 games of 2020-21, the Rockets were 3-6, (0.333) despite going 0.611 the previous year.

Countering another rebuttal, the minimum 185 games seems a bit cherry-picked, but even if you bring it to a minimum of 100 games, he has the 4th worst record of all time, and the the 3 worse than him have an average sample of only 148 games to his 236, a big difference of 88 games, more than a whole extra season to prove yourself.

But I am not finished. What's another team with a horrible recent record? The Pistons, coached by Monty Williams.

Monty Williams, over the same 3 seasons with the Suns, went 160-76 (yes with a great roster), a win pct. of .678. Well, this year, the Pistons, in the midst of a 16 game losing streak, didn't win a single game in November, and are are 2-17 overall, .105, which is even worse than last year's Pistons win pct. of .207, despite gaining Cade Cunningham back and gaining top 4 rookie Ausar Thompson (I know they lost Bojan but Bojan only played 59 games last year and Cade only played 12).

So what's going wrong?

Well have you noticed something? Stephen Silas happens to be an assistant with the Pistons this year.

Obviously, Silas isn't to be pinpointed for the Pistons struggles, he's just an assistant (and you can even make some argument for his time with the Rockets which I hinted at), I just think it's very interesting. Silas is on a historically bad run as a coach and as a bad luck omen, perhaps.

*I have nothing against Stephen Silas. If anything, he seems cool, and might be a good coach, but seeing this level of historical statistical badness, this is too glaring not to point out.

I went and ran the numbers for all the games in his career as an assistant, and Silas did have a fairly respectable record as an assistant for the Mavericks, Bobcats/Hornets, and Warriors from 2006 to 2020, 0.456 win pct, which is why I said bad run, to be specific.

Sources: StatMuse, with the aid of Wikipedia and Basketball-Reference

 

As a head coach, of coaches with a minimum of 185 games, Silas has the worst record of all time. He went 59-177, .250 winning pct. with the Rockets. This year, the Rockets are at a respectable .500 (yes I am aware this level of FA spending didn't happen during any of the Silas years and players like Sengun have improved considerably (though part of that is player development too)). But in 3 seasons with the Rockets, a young ascending team, the team meagerly improved each year (17 wins to 20, to 22). To further counter the rebuttal of the depleted roster argument, even with Harden on the team for those first 9 games of 2020-21, the Rockets were 3-6, (0.333) despite going 0.611 the previous year.

Countering another rebuttal, the minimum 185 games seems a bit cherry-picked, but even if you bring it to a minimum of 100 games, he has the 4th worst record of all time, and the the 3 worse than him have an average sample of only 148 games to his 236, a big difference of 88 games, more than a whole extra season to prove yourself.

But I am not finished. What's another team with a horrible recent record? The Pistons, coached by Monty Williams.

Monty Williams, over the same 3 seasons with the Suns, went 160-76 (yes with a great roster), a win pct. of .678. Well, this year, the Pistons, in the midst of a 16 game losing streak, didn't win a single game in November, and are are 2-17 overall, .105, which is even worse than last year's Pistons win pct. of .207, despite gaining Cade Cunningham back and gaining top 4 rookie Ausar Thompson (I know they lost Bojan but Bojan only played 59 games last year and Cade only played 12).

So what's going wrong?

Well have you noticed something? Stephen Silas happens to be an assistant with the Pistons this year.

Obviously, Silas isn't to be pinpointed for the Pistons struggles, he's just an assistant (and you can even make some argument for his time with the Rockets which I hinted at), I just think it's very interesting. Silas is on a historically bad run as a coach and as a bad luck omen, perhaps.

*I have nothing against Stephen Silas. If anything, he seems cool, and might be a good coach, but seeing this level of historical statistical badness, this is too glaring not to point out.

I went and ran the numbers for all the games in his career as an assistant, and Silas did have a fairly respectable record as an assistant for the Mavericks, Bobcats/Hornets, and Warriors from 2006 to 2020, 0.456 win pct, which is why I said bad run, to be specific.

[–] Pepeloveshimself22@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

basically my thoughts for Hali over ANT. The effeciency and playmaking ability combined with lack of turnovers is insane. Also Haliburton's defense is underrated. He averages 1 steal and 0.7 blocks a game (nuts for a guard). Last year he averaged basically 2 steals a game.

[–] Pepeloveshimself22@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not even a Clippers fan, but my God I hope they do well or win a chip one of these days. Having all that star power and still not making it to the Finals once and constantly having bad luck is just sad. Their fans have been through enough and their may as well be a little more balance in terms of who's won.

 
  1. Tyrese Haliburton
  2. Anthony Edwards
  3. Zion Williamson
  4. LaMelo Ball
  5. Darius Garland
  6. Tyrese Maxey
  7. Alperen Sengun
  8. Tyler Herro
  9. Chet Holmgren
  10. Scottie Barnes
  11. Evan Mobley
  12. Victor Wembanyama
  13. Paolo Banchero
  14. RJ Barrett
  15. Cam Thomas
  16. Jalen Williams
  17. Franz Wagner
  18. Cade Cunningham
  19. Jalen Green
  20. Josh Giddey

I feel as if 25 Under 25 is a little too broad and most of those guys are already established monsters like Luka so 23 and under really gives us the fresh, young talent and future.

Alright, any time you make a subjective list like this your gonna get torn to shreds no matter what the list is, go on tell me why I am wrong and why your favorite player should be higher.

Important:

- considers all components of the game: offense, rebounding, passing, efficiency, defense, etc.

- the ranking is based off: 60% this season, and 40% previous years and previous success and accolades (i.e if one guy is slightly worse than the other this season but has some really good previous accolades, he gets a higher rank, like Josh Giddey hasn't been good this year, but he makes it over someone like Ausar Thompson because he was really good last year and Thompson's only played a couple games)

- yes, this is a edited version of a list I posted yesterday due to the fact that I realized I had totally forgot to update and tweak the middle part of my list from the beginning of the season and it was weighted too heavily on the start of this season and the fact that I need to get a life

[–] Pepeloveshimself22@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Here’s why? Bro we don’t need an explanation lmao

[–] Pepeloveshimself22@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is why I told people to ease on the completely unnecessary Troy Weaver glazing. “By God, he’s done an amazing job” lmao what has he even done right?

 
  1. Tyrese Haliburton
  2. Anthony Edwards
  3. Tyrese Maxey
  4. Zion Williamson
  5. Darius Garland
  6. Tyler Herro
  7. Scottie Barnes
  8. Chet Holmgreen
  9. Evan Mobley
  10. LaMelo Ball
  11. Cam Thomas
  12. Alperen Sengun
  13. Victor Wembanyama
  14. RJ Barrett
  15. Paolo Banchero
  16. Jalen Williams
  17. Franz Wagner
  18. Cade Cunningham
  19. Jalen Green
  20. Josh Giddey

Important:

- considers all components of the game: offense, rebounding, passing, efficiency, defense, etc. (i.e if you average the same points and on the same efficiency and the same assists, but they average less turnovers and are a little better of a rebounder/defender, they are higher.)

- the ranking is based off: 65% this season, and 35% previous years and previous success and accolades (i.e if one guy is slightly worse than the other this season but has some really good previous accolades, he gets a higher rank, like Josh Giddey hasn't been good this year, but he makes it over someone like Ausar Thompson because he was really good last year and Thompson's only played a couple games)

Alright, any time you make a subjective list like this your gonna get torn to shreds no matter what the list is, go on tell me why I am wrong and why your favorite player should be higher.