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I'm not just seeing it here on Reddit. I'm hearing it from other NBA boards, people I play ball with, fantasy basketball people, etc, etc.

I have no idea what the expectation was for this guy in his rookie season, but I think anyone who had half a semblance of knowledge knew what we were getting when he came in. Wemby was a defensive prospect first and foremost who has the chance to grow into one of the most impactful defenders ever due to his size and mobility, who could also put up 20+ points in the near future.

He wasn't great overseas offensively because he was still raw. He's still only 19 years old, in his first season in the NBA on a team that for all intents and purposes is still on a quest for more #1 picks. Wemby was a project from the very first day, albeit a very high ceiling project. Everything we talked about, both offensively and defensively was all about how he's going to look in year 5/6/7/8 of his career.

The dude is 7'4 and learning how to use his size while still picking up a lot of basketball fundamentals. I see a lot of posts saying how the Spurs should do this, or do that, or get this player, or bench that player. So much news for a team that is still far, far, FAR away from any hope of a ring. Why do we care so much that Sochan is getting burn at the PG spot? There seems to be so much focus on a team we knew was going to suck and a prospect that we knew was going to take years to learn the NBA and learn what he can do.

The fact that this kid has had some of the performances that he's had, and that he's even approaching 19-20 points a game regardless of efficiency at this point should be a win. I was expecting a lot less considering how much he had to learn, and how bad some of his performances overseas were. Wemby is arguably ahead of schedule at this point, and it should only get better with more reps, a better team, and more size.

Let him take all the 3s, mid range fade aways, etc that he wants. Let him make every mistake he can make this year to learn for the next year. This is a throwaway year for the Spurs that should be used just to evaluate and develop for the future. Some of you look incredibly silly bagging on a rookie on a below average team, expecting him to be the next Wilt from day 1. He's an incredible PROSPECT, key word there being prospect. Lets see where other 19-20 year old bigs were (Jokic, Giannis, Embiid) before we start complaining about Wemby not being LeBron, or blaming the Spurs for not putting together the perfect team around him when he's not even ready to lead a team in the first place. Stop being weird.

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I think it's moreso just a reality check for those that overhyped or overestimated what Wemby would be or is right now.

The expectations of many of how good Wemby and the Spurs would be right away were simply unrealistic.

[–] Kodak333@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because of Chet for reasons...

[–] DabZonTwitch@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

How quickly people forget the trajectory of this little guy named Giannis Antetokounmpo. 6.8 PPG his rookie year (lead rookies in blocks though), then 12.7, then 16.9, then 22.9 and 26.9...you get it.

Not saying they're the same guy, but it gives a solid sense of comparison imo.

[–] sorendiz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what the expectation was for this guy in his rookie season

Very high

anyone who had half a semblance of knowledge

Very rare

[–] luke_workin@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because he’s not playing as well as the (ridiculous) hype. Plus Chet has been better anyways

[–] Zephyr0us@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

because the media blew him to hell and back, deeming him the next GOAT, saying that hes going to be the best rookie clear cut, and then the season starts, and he's....having a solid, regular rookie season.

blame every sports network in america.

[–] JustWinBabys@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because Chet looks better. Chet is also a couple years older with college and professional experience as it pertains to everything but playing last year. Chet is also playing with a play in team from last year that is young and hungry.

[–] iam_soyboy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Mainly cause other rookies like Chet seem way more conducive to winning.

Wemby can turn it around, but that’s on him to develop and not the media to annoint.

[–] CapSoul8@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Idk, but maybe the media someone compared him to a nostalgia basketball from before 2000s. Usually that gets people going.

[–] ShanghaiAdobo897@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Cos they're dumb and very edgy. That's all you need to know

[–] jamazi_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because of the hype he brought pre-season, being compared to Lebron like he's the greatest prospect since Lebron. Same age as him too. But people forget, Lebron wasn't as polished in his first year, second year he's on a 27/7/7 with efficient shooting. So just chill, he'll get there

[–] Joma913@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

His game is not efficient

[–] Meloxian711@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He's been really inefficient on offense.

He's shooting 43/27/81 which tells me he needs to shoot the ball less than what he's shooting it and pass more. The inefficient scoring hurts the team as a whole and builds bad habits. It's an ugly 19ppg. The same reason we rag on Poole.

Now the 81% free throw metric suggests he probably develops a shot over the next couple of years but isn't there yet.

Like if he was dropping 12/10/4 on 50/30/80 (making more taking less) that's an entirely different thing, especially considering how poor his supporting cast is. Those are good numbers for a rookie. You're talking about one of the best defenders in the league who gets a lot of rebounds and is actually efficient on offense.

[–] Thousandz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I’m just mad the suns lost twice to this spurs team. That is all.

[–] vrkhfkb@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Forget the stats. Or that he’s losing the ROTY race. A big thing is just watching him play. Man is sitting outside like JJ Reddick at 7’4. Remember when Shaq came in and murdered people? That was hype. It just isn’t as exciting as people thought a 7’4 monster was going to be.

[–] iLikeNFLFootball@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because I don’t like San Antonio lol

[–] Paragon188@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Fans are reactionary

[–] siphillis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because a lot of people have zero idea how player development works and thought he would be a Top Ten player as a rookie. The media certainly didn't help comparing him to the game's greatest scorers when in reality he's very much just learning that part of the game.

[–] 2020IsANightmare@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not "down" on Wemby.

I just said it before the season:

  1. Saying he's the most hyped prospect ever is fucking stupid.

  2. I'd like to see him - ya know - play some NBA games before I put him in the HOF.

Specifically to point one, if he has literally half the accolades as Bron - 10x AS, two MVPs, two FMVPs, five Finals - then he will be viewed as one of the greatest players ever.

And the Spurs roster really sucks. I'll never forget the weirdo on here that said the Spurs do have talent, but they can't score in ISO because they are young. That is LITERALLY the time players most thrive in ISO. Playing on bad teams and playing when they rely on athleticism before they understand the game.

Mix in Pop - who doesn't care about regular-season participation trophies and who invented healthy players just sitting out for rest - and I just don't see how the Spurs get more than 20-25 wins.

[–] IslandChillin@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think Chet is winning ROY and a whole bunch of people are about to lose a lot of money

Im actually going to say he can actually double those 5 stats. by watching his game 10 blocks and 10 steals 10assist is easy,maybe in his 3rd or 4th year in the league.

He’s averaging almost 20 and 10 a night as a 19 year old surrounded by bum ass players. I don’t think you could ask for more. He just dropped 22/11 with 6 steals and 4 blocks in 25 minutes.

[–] Oreobakery@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If he never gets injured he’ll break records fs

[–] meatwad-2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Cause Chet is cooking. Thats fucking Y

[–] SandyMandy17@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because Chet is doing what casuals thought 18 year old Wemby was gonna do

[–] MaxStunning_Eternal@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People were doing TOO much with the wemby hype...this was inevitable.

You had people saying he can be an all-star and had him ranked really high on pre season player rankings over established NBA vets..before he even played a game.

[–] metalfacesteez@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I never liked him first

[–] sciencebased@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't heard anyone down on him except in the context of who's leading the ROTY race. He's playing great.

[–] RealPublius@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because he was hyped up in ways that he shouldn't have been. People were calling him a 7'5 Kevin Durant even though he was never scoring at that level.

People are seeing the reality vs expectation. This was bound to happen. He's still a special player but people gave him unfair expectations comparing him to one of the greatest scorers of all time.

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[–] WIEye@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is very unhappy in SA from what I'm hearing.

[–] shazam482@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Drop us a link

Well he is shooting 55% from the field and 20% from 3 last time i checked. Or at least around those numbers. Chet is shooting 55%, 40%, 86%. Also in the Eyetest I think Chet is better. Maybe its that? Plus we have seen him tried to back down CP3 and count do that. But besides that, i have no idea. Hes amazing, just at this moment I think Chet is a little bit better. Only think i can imagine.

[–] Cleavenleave@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He's the 2nd best rookie this year and by far

No one's down on 2nd

It's not like he's playing horrible

[–] anonkebab@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Hatred and his team sucks

[–] Diddleyourfiddle@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NotAnExpertHowever@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with this. Chet seems to be doing way better but a number 1 pick vs 2 vs whatever is still subjective. I think that some other rookies are doing well too. Podz is out there running the court like crazy when he gets minutes.

[–] PBandnojelly@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People get carried away with the expectations. Clearly there's a lot of raw potential there. He's young. It'll be a sight once he matures physically and mentally.

As a team, Spurs have been terrible at finding Wemby. They need a point guard/playmaker. Things will come together further down their rebuild.

I'm enjoying watching Wemby and the NBA.

[–] TheDogtor--@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Public opinion is frugal. Short minded. A few good games its all the rave again. You win, you are king...you lose? You suck. Public opinion is the worst perspective of anything.

[–] tomymorrison@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Chet 3pnt% higher than wemby overall fg%

mostly think it’s because the spurs have been on a big losing streak. something weird happened w nba media and fandom the last couple of years where we decided the best rookies needed to be on pretty good teams (see: scottie barnes, evan mobley roy race), that the fact that wemby’s team sucks is now a slight against wemby

[–] Kvsav57@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People are just finally looking at his play, not the hype. He's a raw talent. You want the guy to develop but this "let him do whatever" is just garbage. He should be out there trying to win games. That's how you develop. He's almost as tall as Manute Bol and only shoots 3s at a slightly better percentage. He should be developing what makes sense. It doesn't matter that his 3-point shot is unblockable if it's still at a lower percentage than the league average. You don't need a guy that tall who spends all his time shooting low percentage shots.

[–] RiPFrozone@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Wemby is good. But this entire rookie class is good.

Jordan Hawkins is balling

Chet is putting up great numbers on a winning team.

Ausar Thompson is averaging a double double

Brandon Miller is showing flashes as an all-star

Derek Lively is contributing in a huge way for the Mavs

Wemby is playing well but not leagues above these guys and definitely not running away with the ROY like everyone thought.

3 years from now we’ll know who’s actually legit but there’s a great chance this whole class is just filled with studs along with Wemby.

[–] mapletree23@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Media's fault, people tried to say he was gonna be the best prospect ever, even better than lebron

they always try to do shit like that and it never pans out like they wish it would

it's also probably because of chet

chet didn't have anywhere near the same level of hype around him and he looks really fucking good, arguably better than wemby, so it basically strips all of the mystique away from wemby when some other tall lanky dude is doing the same type of shit

[–] juantravis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They may not be watching games. It’s tough out there for him with the lineups he’s running with

[–] tonylouis1337@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because it's the ordinary reactionary nature of the average fan. Heck I'm surprised it took this long.

Bottom line is he's a rookie and he hasn't even played his 20th NBA game. He arrived in the United States just a few months ago lol.

People gotta recognize not every rookie is David Robinson and Tim Duncan. A lot of all time great players were bad bad their rookie years and Wemby is already better than a lot of those guys were at the time.

[–] TravelingSaiyan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Criticizers expect Wemby to give the spurs at least a 0.500 record all the time. The kid is only 19 and the entire spurs line up is young as well. They are still adjusting working as a team. Give it time.

[–] Matto_0@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's not fair to him because he didn't say it, but when you are called a better prospect than LeBron James you expect more than this.

[–] idkwhattodohelpplz1@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
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