Its so funny to me how they have such similar structures (and TloU's cordyceps were originally going to affect only women) but Lisa does much more and much better with its themes of abuse, isolation and self-righteousness
As well as less zionism
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yup, and its sad that i've seen so much stuff being like last of us is morally complex or whatever. bc the moment i saw what the story was i was like, whats the complexity? its just lisa but worse in every way, with more budget
and yea also lisa does all that without being zionist
How is tlou zionist?
Any way you could explain that's not a 48 minute video
i would heavily recommend watching both videos in the series as they are more in depth. but here's the tldr i hastly am writing cause tired:
TLoU 1 has this major choice at the ends thats "inspired" by (interviews from writer) israel giving up "terrorists" to palestine in exchange for life of a single soldier. this theme of giving up chance of humanity's survival to preserve family is prominent in the first game and comes from a basically propaganda story from israel, or atleast is claimed to be inspired by that story. (there's more things and details in the vid)
TLoU 2 is much more obvious about it by literally have the israel palestine iron wall. having palestineans represented by the "spiritual group that kill to gain land bc prophet told them" and israel represented by the wolves fighting to "gain back their land and kill the backwater people of the island" (it goes much deeper than that again im summarizing i dont wanna go indepth). in the game its alleged that the "peace treaty" is broken by the spiritual people who just "wanted to gain more land" forcing the wolves to "protect themselves and their people" etc
I am stuck on a work call for the next hour and cannot watch. Could someone just type out why TLoU is zionist, and does it apply if the only TLoU entry one has experienced was the original game (Like me)?
https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-not-so-hidden-israeli-politics-of-the-last-of-us-part-ii/
Tl;Dr Joel is Israel and Abby is Palestine
Well that was fucking cringe to read! Makes sense that it's from the sequel, I was wracking my brain trying to recall how TLoU1 on PS3 was ever making zionist arguments or allegories and coming up blank.
Ahhh yes this I've heard before. I too was thinking about part 1 and got confused.
i would heavily recommend watching both videos in the series as they are more in depth. but here's the tldr i hastly am writing cause tired:
TLoU 1 has this major choice at the ends thats "inspired" by (interviews from writer) israel giving up "terrorists" to palestine in exchange for life of a single soldier. this theme of giving up chance of humanity's survival to preserve family is prominent in the first game and comes from a basically propaganda story from israel, or atleast is claimed to be inspired by that story. (there's more things and details in the vid)
TLoU 2 is much more obvious about it by literally have the israel palestine iron wall. having palestineans represented by the "spiritual group that kill to gain land bc prophet told them" and israel represented by the wolves fighting to "gain back their land and kill the backwater people of the island" (it goes much deeper than that again im summarizing i dont wanna go indepth). in the game its alleged that the "peace treaty" is broken by the spiritual people who just "wanted to gain more land" forcing the wolves to "protect themselves and their people" etc