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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Basic overcurrent protection? In my sci-fi?

Next you're gonna tell me you can't just "re-route power" by pressing buttons on a screen and not, you know, actually unhooking any wires!

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 63 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Building everything to be able to re-route to everything is WHY all the consoles are constantly exploding.

[–] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean you dont want to reroute all the power for the warp engines into the navigation console?

With that much power you can navigate anywhere, at least until the console melts through the floor

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

O'Brien constantly breaking good cardassian engineering with infernal federation secondary backups.

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[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 40 points 11 months ago

one of my favorite jokes about this is on TNG. i think it's the episode where the bridge gets cut off from the rest of the ship, and Troi is in charge of running the ship. O'Brian makes a comment to Ro about how you can't 'just reroute power from things'.

it's a funny little nod from the writers.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't know about you people, but personally, I always write programs at work by removing boards from my computer and plugging them in a different order.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago

That's why they are so fit and resourceful. Imagine carrying every IF statement by hand.

[–] Eylrid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That not too far off how they used to program computers with punch cards

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Well, it really wasn't. You'd program by punching the cards, and then insert them into the computer. If they brought the boards from a terminal (or replicator), and switched the old ones to the new ones, the entire thing would make sense.

It's a bit similar to how people programed analogical computers at the 50s. But it's actually a lot like programing old sewing machines. The thing those have in common is that their programs were always an order of magnitude smaller than this comment.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How do you know the buttons don't trigger relais or the like which then actually unhook the wires?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Judging from what things look like when they open up the walls, they could just be telling the system to use a specific circuit path. It looks like everything is just a bunch of blocks or cards with super dense computer chips on them and half the repairs we ever see are just these being unslotted and replaced. The other half being waving fake tools around.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Some real dense, high-tech circuitry going on in there...

...is that an isolinear rod next to Uhura's head?

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[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's an interesting way to spell relays

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

you can't just "re-route power" by pressing buttons on a screen and not, you know, actually unhooking any wires!

High-voltage switches might be a bit complicated. One I've seen requires you to tighten a spring and then have it released extremely fast to prevent sparking. Still, there should be a way to do it safely, without having to go near or touch the wiring.

[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 67 points 11 months ago (4 children)

wait till they rediscover seatbelts

[–] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 47 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If bracing for impact is good enough for the Enterprise, it's good enough for my Hyundai.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's what the inertial dampeners are for!

... if they were working

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

"Inertial dampeners have failed."

Many times someone will say this while the ships is performing combat maneuvers at several hundred kilometers per second.

If that were true, everyone onboard would instantly become "chunky salsa." (Obscure Trek-related quote, for anyone that can place it.)

[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 16 points 11 months ago

Have you tried diverting power from life support yet?

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

and start actually putting on space suits when they should.

[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But then they can't get infected by the secret bioengineered virus left behind by the extinct species!

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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Once again I remind you all that these consoles are not powered by a substance as boring as regular electricity. Oh no. It has to be highly energetic tuned plasma...straight to the user interface consoles...for, uh, reasons.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The reason is because the engines produce this material as a waste product. So instead of venting it into space it's processed and funneled back through the ship to power everything from lights to equipment.

Very efficient and very VERY dangerous. Many Vulcans retired from the VSA because Humans pulled shit like this.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't it be easier and safer to just use it to generate boring old electricity and send that through the ship? Maybe the danger is there to keep the crew excited and working at maximum efficiency...

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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

All I'm saying is, there's no way this would pass a MIL-STD-882 safety assessment in the twenty first century. So I have no idea how they got their spaceworthiness certificate.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago

Gotta have a way to effortlessly kill redshirts. Whoops! Another plasma conduit blew out. Poor Gary.

[–] Sdnimm543@slrpnk.net 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Battle shorting the practice of negating the fuses in a ship or other war machine because a blown fuse disabling a key system could lead to the loss of the whole ship in battle, and the equipment can maybe work over its rated limit for a time when necessary. Cathode Ray Dude did a video about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpJ_6LCly4A

[–] Spot@startrek.website 67 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"In a battle or emergency, where the survival of the vessel (or other protected asset) is dependent upon the continued operation of the equipment, it is sometimes wiser to risk equipment damage than have the equipment shut down when it is needed. For example, the electrical drives to elevate and traverse the guns of a combat warship may have "battleshort" fuses, which are simply copper bars of the correct size to fit the fuse holders, as failure to return fire in a combat situation is a greater threat to the ship and crew than damaging or overheating the electrical motors."

Huh. Learn something all the time.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So sticking a penny in the fuse slot in my car is actually a galaxy brain move.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

when your car is under fire, yes.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If it's not under fire, it'll be on fire.

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[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If only they had Space OSHA.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That would be so cool a sci-fi adaption of forklift-driver Klaus (warning, a bit gory but hilarious):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJYOkZz6Dck

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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Another problem is about where to redirect the overcharge. In space there is no ground where the current can go. Yet you need to dissipate the energy somewhere.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Back at the attacking ship, obviously!

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let me just pull a grounding wire to there.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Grounding HARPOON YAAAAAAR

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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

It's probably grounded to the hull somewhere, put in a couple electric gizmos and feed the power back into your batteries. Now the enemy is charging your ship while they blow it up because you didn't turn on your sheild.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago

Oh great, now what am I supposed to do with all these extra damage-accentuation rocks?!?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe don't put so many things that can catch fire on the bridge too.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago

In the 24th Century they discovered that liquid napalm was a highly efficient electrical conductor ... so they used it to wire their ships.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Do we have fuses that can safely dissipate like 350Megajoules? I don't remember which specific episode it was, but I remember on DS9 they were going to overload the warpcore to stop something and someone said the only system on the station capable of absorbing that much raw electrical energy was the shield system, since that's literally what it is; a giant fuse.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

Fuses don't dissipate electricity. They pass electricity and then blow when exceeded. Blowing is either flipping off (like your breaker) or breaking (like replaceable fuses). The point of a fuse is to be the weakest link so if a surge occurs it doesn't damage equipment or wiring.

In the case you described, they were looking for a load (where energy is used or dissipated to do work) to absorb that much energy at once. There might be a fuse that could withstand that kind of load; there was wiring that could afterall. But if the shield system could absorb the full power of an overloaded warp core, it might not have needed one if there was no downside to overcharging it.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Hum... I have a 75MJ varistor on each phase of the main wiring of my house. Those are not fuses (because fuses don't have a total energy specification) but I can certainly get a few more for the Enterprise it they want.

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[–] LongbottomLeaf@lemmy.nz 11 points 11 months ago
[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Resettable fuses and circuit breakers!

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